DR Resolved @Zeith vs @onlinedev

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He has completely altered the chat and deleted numerous things to hide/mask the scam. Like I said earlier, I had a feeling something was off when he delayed the delivery so I did a simple full export of the Telegram chat right before going to sleep and woke up to see all the messages up to June 19th wiped.


If the review team would like, I can easily just upload the exported Telegram file. You will see the same exact chat log that he has screenshotted but also the missing holes in the convo that he tried to hide. I do want to apologize to the staff for insulting him in the chat as I was frustrated and have completely refrained from it since I found out it was against the rules.


If you compare his screenshots to my chat logs they are a 1:1 but you will see all the deleted messages.

Checking in on this again.

Zeith said:

Checking in on this again.

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We are not ignoring this.

Zeith said:

He has completely altered the chat and deleted numerous things to hide/mask the scam. Like I said earlier, I had a feeling something was off when he delayed the delivery so I did a simple full export of the Telegram chat right before going to sleep and woke up to see all the messages up to June 19th wiped.

If the review team would like, I can easily just upload the exported Telegram file. You will see the same exact chat log that he has screenshotted but also the missing holes in the convo that he tried to hide. I do want to apologize to the staff for insulting him in the chat as I was frustrated and have completely refrained from it since I found out it was against the rules.


If you compare his screenshots to my chat logs they are a 1:1 but you will see all the deleted messages.

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@onlinedev, why did you leave out content in the chats when sharing here?

I didn't leave out any content in the chat, this is the full chat I had with the buyer. The service he is talking about, I don't offer that.
How can he claim that I sold $1,000 credit card to him for just $600? How will I make a profit from that?
This doesn't make any sense. I don't know the reason why this buyer is doing this and what he want to achieve doing it.

onlinedev said:

I didn't leave out any content in the chat, this is the full chat I had with the buyer. The service he is talking about, I don't offer that.
How can he claim that I sold $1,000 credit card to him for just $600? How will I make a profit from that?
This doesn't make any sense. I don't know the reason why this buyer is doing this and what he want to achieve doing it.

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Are you saying that @Zeith has somehow doctored the YouTube video he's posted above?

SettingSun77 said:

Are you saying that @Zeith has somehow doctored the YouTube video he's posted above?

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I didn't sell or discuss any business relating to selling credit card with $1,000 in it for $600. this doesn't make any sense at all, how will someone sell a credit card with $1,000 in it for $600?
I don't know how he got the screenshot of chats he uploaded, even currently on telegram, he is telling me to send him half of the $600 so that he will cancel the dispute.

onlinedev said:

I didn't sell or discuss any business relating to selling credit card with $1,000 in it for $600. this doesn't make any sense at all, how will someone sell a credit card with $1,000 in it for $600?
I don't know how he got the screenshot of chats he uploaded, even currently on telegram, he is telling me to send him half of the $600 so that he will cancel the dispute.

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@Zeith Are you contacting @onlinedev outside of this dispute? Because I would ask you to stop doing that and keep ALL correspondence in this thread.

@onlinedev That's not the question I asked. The evidence is all in the video that was posted. As far as I can see it's fairly irrefutable. Are you suggesting otherwise?

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@Zeith Are you contacting @onlinedev outside of this dispute? Because I would ask you to stop doing that and keep ALL correspondence in this thread.

@onlinedev That's not the question I asked. The evidence is all in the video that was posted. As far as I can see it's fairly irrefutable. Are you suggesting otherwise?

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Are you suggesting otherwise?: Yes
The screenshot is doctored, i didn't discuss or do any business concerning a credit card with $1,000 for $600.
I haven't heard or see someone selling a credit card of $1,000 for $600.

onlinedev said:

Are you suggesting otherwise?: Yes
The screenshot is doctored, i didn't discuss or do any business concerning a credit card with $1,000 for $600.
I haven't heard or see someone selling a credit card of $1,000 for $600.

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Admittedly I'm not an expert in doctoring YouTube videos and/or Telegram chats but unless you have any actionable evidence that this has taken place, I'm going to dismiss this accusation out of hand.

the 2 things he paid me to do was, selling an Old USA account and 2ndly restoring the account when is limited. that's the 2 business i did with him.

onlinedev said:

the 2 things he paid me to do was, selling an Old USA account and 2ndly restoring the account when is limited. that's the 2 business i did with him.

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That's not the evidence we've seen.

SettingSun77 said:

Admittedly I'm not an expert in doctoring YouTube videos and/or Telegram chats but unless you have any actionable evidence that this has taken place, I'm going to dismiss this accusation out of hand.

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he doesn't need to edit or doctor a youtube video, the video is of the screenshot of chats that he has already doctored.

onlinedev said:

he doesn't need to edit or doctor a youtube video, the video is of the screenshot of chats that he has already doctored.

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That you have provided no evidence of happening. If you have evidence this has happened, post it. If you don't then that particular matter is closed. I'm now waiting to see what @Zeith wants to see happen.

Why is he contacting me to send $300 i.e half of the $600 to cancel the dispute, Why?
He just want to extort money from me.

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Why is he contacting me to send $300 i.e half of the $600 to cancel the dispute, Why?
He just want to extort money from me.

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No more from you until @Zeith has replied, thank you.

@SettingSun77 is not just going to issue a ruling here, as that is only part of our job.

He's educating you all on how to conduct yourself in a business relationship and how to conduct yourself on this platform.

There is real value to anyone.

SettingSun77 said:

No more from you until @Zeith has replied, thank you.

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In a desperate attempt from me, I tried to see if he would be willing to return just half of the money he has stolen from me in hopes that I get at least something back. When I opened up this dispute, I had no hope that I would get any resolution because of the manner of what he did. He cleared out all messages about the deal and acted as if the deal never had happened. Obviously when he did that the intention was to purely rob me so even getting something back is a win because I expect nothing from this scammer.



I want to apologize because I did insult him so I hope you can excuse my anger as I am upset and embarrassed about the scam but I still can't believe he is trying to spin this as if I am going to go out of my way to doctor chat logs.

I have exported the chat logs because I knew something was up, they are extensive and they match his screenshots but they fill in the holes that he has wiped out. I recorded the chat logs but if the review team wants, I will give them directly the exported files. I even uploaded the files when I originally posted the dispute if @SettingSun77 recalls but I had to delete that as it was against the format/rules.

I do not know what else to say at this point but I just want my money back.. if I get it then I will consider it a miracle because like I mentioned a few times now this was never a deal dispute it was a scam report.

Edit: @SettingSun77 The warning by the way to stop contacting him outside of the dispute was after these messages. I once again apologize and will not approach him again.

Zeith said:

I have exported the chat logs because I knew something was up, they are extensive and they match his screenshots but they fill in the holes that he has wiped out. I recorded the chat logs but if the review team wants, I will give them directly the exported files.

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Yes, I'd like to see these.

In the meantime, do NOT contact @onlinedev outside this thread, please. Keep all communication in here.

Also, can you please clarify what you would now like from this dispute in terms of a refund.