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Youtube vs Gmail vs G+ pva

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by punkinhead, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. punkinhead

    punkinhead Regular Member

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    Aren't they all tied together? Isn't a Yt account just a Gmail account where someone clicked a button to associate a YT account with it?

    Trying to create personas in BuzzBuilder that have access to YT, FB, G+, and wondering exactly what sort of PVAs I need.
     
  2. stallion45d

    stallion45d Regular Member

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    A youtube account or a G+ are indeed a Gmail account.

    Once you create the Gmail account what you do is activating the channel on YT or filling and finishing the profile on G+. You can easily generate a non PVA on your PC, the problem comes when you need them in bulk, as google will start asking for phone verification.

    They say PVAs last longer, but honestly if you plan to do something very black hat, it does not really matter as they will also get banned. In my experience I have always worked with my own non PVAs as verified ones are expensive and difficult to create (in bulk).

    Beware if you buy "PVAs" here or fiverr, because sometimes they are fake and they havenĀ“t been verified as the looking of a non PVA and a PVA are almost identical.

    check:

    http://www.google.com/settings/account

    and you can see if a phone was used on the process.
     
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  3. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Power Member

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    I concur with everything Stallion says.

    The state of "PVA's" offered for sale is really abysmal. 99% of sellers have no honesty and all they care about is your money. You are much better off spending some time on learning how to make non-pva's. Automatically or manually.
     
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  4. punkinhead

    punkinhead Regular Member

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    Ok, thx.
    Any particular direction I should head or terms I should search for using burner YT accounts to pump up a master account that can't be jeopardized? I'm sure that's a common thing, I just don't have terminology for it to search.
     
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    I've tried several ways but just can't find a way to make non PVA accounts, any tips?
     
  6. stallion45d

    stallion45d Regular Member

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    I would like to add that many sellers create accounts without refreshing the IP very often , so when the hammer ban appears, you what happens. Some of them even re-sell the same accounts to different buyers.

    Do not buy accounts. Spend some time on the learning curve to create yours
     
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  7. punkinhead

    punkinhead Regular Member

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    Hmmm... good points. Got a particular pointer for beginning that journey? Really not looking to make a job of this. I've got enough work with website design and other social media, but will do what needs to be done overall. Prefer not to bog myself down in the petty details where possible, though.
     
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    You have dynamic IP? IE, can you switch the router off and on and get a fresh IP that way?

    Try that.
    Set up a new Firefox profile. Surf the web randomly for a minute. Go to any accounts.google.com page, and try to sign up. Insert a fake email as your alternate email. Insert a fake phone number for your country. You have 10-30% chance of being successful in creating a non-pva. If you fail, start again.
     
  9. darkoltree

    darkoltree Junior Member

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    I'm sorry but PVA is Phone Verified Account right?

    And how does an account qualify as PVA? Must the account be attached to phone number? Or is it just the verification process(meaning that no phone numbers are associated with the account and used for verification only)?
     
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    Both ways are okay I think. I myself don't think that there's some differences in quality of normal and PVA account. It's just legend and they're selling it to people.

     
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  11. punkinhead

    punkinhead Regular Member

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    I have no idea if I have dynamic IP. Never needed to know before. I do know it's a 10 minute ordeal switching router on and off, then mating the repeater...

    I have found that G will allow me to create an account with no number and captcha only, but it seems to have some long memory of this... like only once in a long while. Any attempts even the next day are met with phone requirement.
     
  12. stallion45d

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    Use Ccleaner to delete cookies and download a flash cookies cleaner. Using different browsers also helps. Changing the language on your browser also helps. There are many factors, but anyway , seems like they updated something on the sign in form and now is harder to create accounts in a row!!
     
  13. ThreadKiller

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    Well, if you check your ip after switching off and on, what happens then?

    If the repeater is an issue, maybe you should work closer to the router so you won't need the repeater?

    Unless you find a way of messing about with dynamic ip's, or unless you have access to huge amounts of proxies, you will not be successful.
     
  14. thomson jorge

    thomson jorge Newbie

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    I think Youtube is a leader!!!
     
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    Yes, they all come in the same package, "One Google Account for everything Google" as they say :)
     
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    +1 point for most useless comment in this thread.