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YOUTUBE Seo - analysis

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by appache, Sep 21, 2011.

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  1. appache

    appache Regular Member

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    I have been reading a whole lot about youtube SEO THEORIES...

    There is one going around that
    shorter titles with your exact keyword being in the title and in the description would get you better ranking on the pages.

    As we already know, the amount of views has nothing to do with your ranking.


    So here as an example, I will explain my test.


    I was ranking 10th video for my keyword (and my friend) "
    Rick Genest"


    my original title was : Zombers has a picnic : lucifer's Blasphemous (rick genest)


    I will now give you a breakdown of each spot:


    1. Rick Genest Interview
    Rick Genest Interview
    by Ryan545Thom790 | 5 months ago | 38,291 views

    2. Rick Genest "The Zombie Boy"
    The Zombie Boy. Clips are from a german TV and from the tv movie "Carny". Music by Slash's Snakepit (Life's sweet drug)
    by MetalliskUlv | 1 year ago | 248,520 views

    3. Rico The Zombie: Exclusive footage from NIGHTLIFE.CA's cover story shoot
    " "Thierry Mugler" Mugler "Born this Way" Teaser NIGHTLIFE.CA "April issue" Magazine "Nicola Formichetti" "Rico The Zombie" "Zombie Boy" "Rick Genest" ...
    by nightlifemagazine | 6 months ago | 407,364 views

    4. Hello from Rico
    ... "Rick Genest" "Rico the zombie" "Nicola Formichetti" "Lady Gaga" "Born this way" "Thierry Mugler" Tattoo "Celebrity Model" ...
    by TheRealRickGenest | 6 months ago | 193,390 views

    5. MAD MAUS with "Rick Genest" in Mexico City
    Producer: THEBOSS Directed: Fabiola Wade Editor: Cynthia Zarate Special Guest: Rick Genest Fashion Party: Mad Maus WWW.DOLLSCHIC.COM TWITTER ...
    by agenciamodelsrunways | 3 months ago | 1,615 views

    6. Rick Genest (Zombie boy)
    by MsGagan123 | 5 months ago | 86,118 views

    7. Lady GaGa & Rick Genest (Zombie Boy) Fan Made
    Videos: Thierry Mugler fashion show men/women and Born This Way Music: Style of Eye - Girls used in "The City" interlude of The Monster Ball
    by sary016 | 6 months ago | 54,796 views

    8. Face--face avec Rick Genest, alias Zombie Boy
    7 Jours vous prsente l'univers de Rick Genest, cet ancien squeegee de Montral qui, aprs tre apparu dans le vidoclip Born This Way, de Lady ...by
    7joursTV | 4 months ago | 80,200 views

    9. Rick Genest - Zombie Boy
    Rick Genest (born August 7, 1985) is a Canadian model born in Montreal, known as Zombie Boy for having a tattoo of a zombie across his entire body ...
    by 92ica | 5 months ago | 15,742 views

    10. Zombers has a picnic : Lucifer's Blasphemous (rick genest)
    Zombie boy aka Zombers aka rick genest, has a picnic live at the Belmont, Montreal april 20th 2011. Part of Lucifers Blasphemous show Follow Rico ...
    by GlockBusterFilms | 5 months ago | 3,339 views



    I then decided to switch my title to : zombie boy has a picnic - rick genest


    I waited 24 hours and saw no changes happened. Still at spot #10 and not on google search results.


    Here is what I have anylised:




    vid #1.


    - The video title and description are super short, and to the point.
    - vid has very few views / comment. Especially compared to the others under!
    - Chan has 11 subs....40k total views on vids and 12 uploads
    - User has 165 vids that he has favorited
    -200 likes

    in this case short title/desc + very active in the community placed this user in coveted first spot ( I get the feeling that the fact that this video is relatively new, it helps get a boost - it would be interesting to check back in a month or two if it changed spot)


    vid #2.


    - Longer title than the first video
    - 200k+ views
    - 6 uploads , 1 favorited , 21 subs
    -645 likes
    - 1 year old
    - "as seen on..."

    In this case I feel it ranked 2nd due to its slightly longer title and description, but the good amount of views and likes made it rank well.


    vid #3.

    - Keyword not in title
    - 400k+ views
    - 72 uploads , 6 favorited , 200 subs
    -1800 likes
    - relatively new also
    - only 506k total upload views (cheater?)
    In this case I feel it ranked 3rd due to the keyword obviously not being in the title...I think the massive views are helping compensating. It is also relatively new. It is however, weird to see how well this video performed, compared to spot #1 even if they are dating back to around the same time. It is safe to say you need your keywords in the title.


    vid #4.

    - keyword not in title
    - 190k+ views
    - 5 uploads , 0 favorited , 3885 subs
    -982 likes
    - username with keyword in it
    In this case I feel it ranked 4th due to the keyword not being in the title. I believe this proves that the YT Search engines will put more importance on a a title than a username.


    vid #5.

    - Longest title so far
    - 1600+ views
    - 21 uploads , TONS OF favorited , 3700 subs
    - 3 months old
    In this case I feel it ranked 5th due to its longer title. There are very few views on this video however. With the incredible amounts of favorited videos, and the fact that it has 3700 subs helped it rank so well.


    vid #6.
    - no description
    - 86k+ views

    In this case I feel it ranked 6th due to the fact that it has a good short title with keyword but NO DESCRIPTION




    -------------Ill try to speed this up a bit for everyone--------



    vid #7.

    In this case I feel it ranked 7th due to its longer title. It has less subs than me, less favorites, less of EVERYTHING but Uploads & VIEWS. So Views count to a certain extent. As for uploads, I guess this would be counted as participating in the community.


    vid #8.

    In this case I feel it ranked 8th due to its longer title. It has less subs than me, less favorites, less of EVERYTHING but VIEWS and total views. So Views count, I think it is now safe to say so.


    vid #9.

    In this case I feel it ranked 9th due to its short title but low amounts of uploads. It does have massive favorites (600+) and is subscribed to 50 people. Chan has next to no stats, but the title and comunity activity is puting them ahead of us.


    vid #10.
    This is our video.




    ******


    So I have learned that:

    - I need to participate more in the youtube comunity

    - Views count, but size isnt all that matters :D
    - Short title and description with exact keyword seem to do better.
    - Being "as seen on" seems to help your rank which would make sense that they are boosting people "promoting youtube " elsewhere on the web
    - title > username
    - youtube search is just a hard nut to fricken crack


    I hope this has helped some people out as it took me a good 2 hours to do!

    -Show some love-






     
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  2. chipmunk951

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    Small red font is really hard to read.

    And i'm only 22 so you can't say i'm old.
     
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    Alright I made it a bit bigger, hope it is all good now :)
     
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    anyone give your thoughts on this or if there is something you want to add. I think it is a pretty interesting topic.

    I herd somewhere that there is 200+ things that youtube takes into account when pulling search results
     
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    200 things huh? sounds like Google to me... wait.. YT is good :p
     
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    I have been trying to crack youtube for a minute now...

    I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with activity in the community
    I create new accounts and still rank high

    Honestly its all about

    Title
    Description
    Tags
    Ratings
    Favorites

    I upload atleast 5 videos a day mostly newly released songs
    and thanks to some help from this forum I always end up in the top 5 results no matter how late I come in. Mind you when new songs come out people rush to youtube to upload so its highly competitive within that 12 hour period.
     
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    youtube is getting like Craig
     
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    check the above analysis and feel free to go check it out yourself on YT (hence why i gave the keyword)

    You might be misinterpreting my statement as, It is not COMMUNITY ACTIVITY that ranks you but it one of the things YT takes into consideration when providing search results.

    As far as I seem to grasp all this, I get the feeling that uploading 5 vids a day would also count as participating in the community as you are helping the website grow.
     
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    The user name plays a big part I will agree with that. Also if you leave a video response on vids with same KW
     
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    nice analysis OP :)
     
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    Well from the looks of it, It does but only to a certain extent. as the keyword in the username was ranked lower than the others.

    I suspect it might be because the words are not seperated by a space though.


    I would also like to share my joy on my first video being successful in getting a partnership with Youtube.
     
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    Alright so I have an update.

    I just received a video response and got pushed from fourth to THIRD spot.
    YT: Madame coucoune

    Check out the stats of views and all :)

    I applied the stratagy I was talking about!
    worked!

    but vid responses seems to be VERY IMPORTANT!