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Youtube On page optimization.

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by rettaibi, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. rettaibi

    rettaibi Regular Member

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    I know there are a some threads about on page for Youtube, but I want to take that information and test it and figure out what works and what not and I want you guys to help(later more on this) so we can learn together.
    Well lets start with a brief of what I learned from the threads I have read.
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    Title

    -This one is obvious put your keyword in the title some say you have to put your keyword in the
    beginning of your title and some say it doesn?t matter where you put your keyword.
    (I am going to test this, later more on this)


    Description
    - Of course start with putting your link or your keyword something like this.
    keyword http://www.youtlinkhere.com or http://www.yourlinkhere.com keyword.
    - I have read that an article(400 words) about the keyword helps
    - An outgoing link to a authority webiste like wikipedia.

    Tags
    - Put your keyword in the tags and some other keyword that are related tot hat keyword.
    Example: blue widget is your keyword put also in the tags red widget and orange widget you get the
    point.
    - If your keyword is ? blue widget? add tags as ?free blue widget? or ?Blue widget scam?.​



    Tips
    - Put the tags of your competiter in your tags you will appear on the rightside of his video or
    after his video is finished.
    - When uploading your video. name your video to your keyword(keyword.mov)
    - Also put your keyword when uploading your profile picture(keyword.jpg)​


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    This is the knowledge that I have gathered from the threads that I have read.
    now we are going to do some testing. As you know the reason I opened this thread is because I wanted some ideas of what to test It can be as crazy as you want but only onpage no offpage. I have this already.



    Title ? keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title
    Title ? keyword in the beginning VS keyword at the end on the title.
    Description ? Link to Wikipedia VS no link to Wikipedia.
    Description ? long article(400 words) VS short article(50 words.).
    Description ? keyword ? link VS Link-Keyword
    Tags ? Keyword stuffing the tags VS Natural tags
    Long videos VS short videos
    Keyword stuffing(whole page) VS normal optimized(Whole page)
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    If you want to read what I have read here are the thread links.

    Code:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/my-journey-discussions/527294-youtube-clickbank-aiming-100-day-lets-do-s-2.html#post5209800
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/my-journey-discussions/527294-youtube-clickbank-aiming-100-day-lets-do-s-3.html#post5224734
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/my-journey-discussions/527294-youtube-clickbank-aiming-100-day-lets-do-s-2.html#post5211387
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/buy-sell-services/502629-adsense-safe-youtube-views-referrer-retention-views-amazing-over-delivery.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/my-journey-discussions/527294-youtube-clickbank-aiming-100-day-lets-do-s-6.html#post5321633
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/my-journey-discussions/527294-youtube-clickbank-aiming-100-day-lets-do-s-7.html#post5361604
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/547632-how-advertise-free-youtube-leverage-your-video.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/my-journey-discussions/527294-youtube-clickbank-aiming-100-day-lets-do-s-12.html#post5575420
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/558169-confused-about-youtube-ranking.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/467855-any-idea-how-guy-got-his-video-1-google.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/534778-my-exact-strategy-how-i-ranked-246-000-keyword-page-1-google.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/534778-my-exact-strategy-how-i-ranked-246-000-keyword-page-1-google-3.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/557348-vseo-myth-obliterated-simple-keyword-research-ranks-18-000-keywords-overnight.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/494618-can-you-rank-youtube-videos-google-serps-no-page-1-videos.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/524999-ranking-videos-google-what-f.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/535256-youtube-search-engine-optimization-how-rank-1-a.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/454783-proper-way-rank-any-youtube-video-first-share.html
    
    
    http://seo-hacker.com/youtube-seo/
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/511549-youtube-pop-keyword-ranking-method.html
    
    
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/569331-ranking-youtube-video-google.html
    
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    E books that I have read.

    Code:
    [URL]http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/downloads-video-production/571908-get-project-x-tube-wso-752628-a.html[/URL]
    
    [URL="http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/571730-get-youtube-search-engine-optimization-do-list.html#post5636505"]http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/571730-get-youtube-search-engine-optimization-do-list.html[/URL]
    
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    That is it I am going to bed now when I log in tomorrow I'll gather the ideas (if there are some) and I am going to test them.

    And another thing as you can see and read my English and threads making skills are not the best
    so please be patient with me(and if you can't help it please correct all my mistakes so I can learn).
     
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  2. imperial444

    imperial444 Elite Member

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    This is a nice tutorial for newbies and should be read before any questions asked in this section. Must have definitely for any beginner on YT marketing.
     
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  3. Chokas

    Chokas Newbie

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    nice tutorial
     
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  4. rettaibi

    rettaibi Regular Member

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    For every test I made 2 videos each one are exactly the same the only thing that are different is the thing that I am testing. This is the first test after 1 week I'll check if something changed and I will report back.
    I am going to test this again but with 3 videos and see if I get the same outcome.
    I will create 1 video fort the the one that is ranking now #1. And 2 videos for the one that is ranking #2. Just to check if the one that is ranking #1 still will rank #1.
    After that I am going to test all of this again but with very easy keywords instead of BS keywords.
    If somebody has something in mind that I should test, please speek now or forver hold your peace.(lol :p) .
    I'll just show you the results and after I am done testing I'll make conclusions.

    Title - keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title

    Result: The keyword only title outranked the title with the keyword + something else.


    Code:
     [URL="http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&aqs=chrome.0.57.198j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&gs_l=serp.3...743729.743729.11.744066.1.1.0.0.0.0.258.258.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.ps"]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&aqs=chrome.0.57.198j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&gs_l=serp.3...743729.743729.11.744066.1.1.0.0.0.0.258.258.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.ps [/URL]

    Title - keyword in the begin VS keyword at the end on the title
    Result: Keyword in the begin outranked keyword at the end.


    Code:
     [URL="http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&aqs=chrome.0.57.198j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=farkoesa+moenjija&oq=farkoesa+moenjija&gs_l=serp.3...358710.358710.0.358928.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.z"]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&aqs=chrome.0.57.198j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=farkoesa+moenjija&oq=farkoesa+moenjija&gs_l=serp.3...358710.358710.0.358928.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.z [/URL]
    Title - 2 times the keyword in the title VS 1 time the title

    2 times the keyword won.

    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=nuhimubabi&oq=nuhimubabi&aqs=chrome.0.57.291j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
    Description - Link to Wikipedia VS no link to wikipedia
    This one was kind a strange for me because the one without the link to wikipedia outranked the one that has the link to wikipedia maybe because the wikipedia link doesn't exist but I'll analyse that when I am done testing.
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=bakiunfoedi&oq=bakiunfoedi&aqs=chrome.0.57.173j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL]
    
    Description - long article vs short article
    Only the Long article video is indexed the other one is not indexed yet so here is the link and come back after a while and see the result for your self.
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=blablakinkin&oq=blablakinkin&aqs=chrome.0.57j60j61j60.171j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 

    Description - keyword - link VS Link-Keyword
    As you can see the video with first the link and then the keyword outranked the video with the keyword first and then the keyword. Don't know why maybe because at the first video you have the keyword near each other. Or maybe because its the same and google just picked a random video to be the first one but we will see.

    Code:
     [URL="http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=woeldinipa&oq=woeldinipa&aqs=chrome.0.57.274j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=woeldinipa&oq=woeldinipa&aqs=chrome.0.57.274j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 [/URL]

    Tags - 2 different ways of stuffing
    The tags need a different approach but yeah here are the results.
    Video A outranked Video B
    [​IMG]
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=habibianati&oq=habibianati&aqs=chrome.0.57.139j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 


    uploading video as keyword.mov VS normal.Mov
    Not indexed yet. But here is the link for when it is.

    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=hazoeka+doetkanc&oq=hazoeka+doetkanc&aqs=chrome.0.57.447j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
    Keyword stuffing VS normal optimized
    The Keyword stuffed one used to rank #1 but the normal optimized page outranked the stuffed video. But what is interesting to see here is that one of the other video ranked for this keyword also

    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=loenjiknuf&oq=loenjiknuf&aqs=chrome.0.57j62.244j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
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    As I said this is just one of the first test there is a lot to improve to draw a real conclusion I made some notes and people that see something that should be improved just say it (even if it is crazy as hell) and I will take that to the next test
     
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  5. rettaibi

    rettaibi Regular Member

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    Update(Test 1.0)


    This is just an update on the first test after this update I'll start with test 2.0.



    Title - keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title
    The keyword only title still ranks #1
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&aqs=chrome.0.57.198j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&gs_l=serp.3...743729.743729.11.744066.1.1.0.0.0.0.258.258.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.ps[/URL] 

    Title - keyword in the begin VS keyword at the end on the title
    Keyword in the begin of the title was #1 but know the keyword at the end of the title is ranking #1

    Code:
     [URL="http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=farkoesa+moenjija&oq=farkoesa+moenjija&aqs=chrome.0.57j62l3.885j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=farkoesa+moenjija&oq=farkoesa+moenjija&aqs=chrome.0.57j62l3.885j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 [/URL]
    Title - 2 times the keyword in the title VS 1 time the title
    2 times the keyword in the title was ranking #1 but know the title with 1 time the keyword in it is ranking #1

    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=nuhimubabi&oq=nuhimubabi&aqs=chrome.0.57.291j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
    Description - Link to Wikipedia VS no link to Wikipedia
    The video without the Wikipedia link used to rank #1 but know the video with the Wikipedia link ranks #1
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=bakiunfoedi&oq=bakiunfoedi&aqs=chrome.0.57.173j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL]
    


    Description - long article VS short article
    The last time only the long article was indexed. The video with the short kind a spammy article is ranking #1 I think it will change but we will see.
    Code:
     [URL="http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=blablakinkin&oq=blablakinkin&aqs=chrome.0.57j60j61j60.171j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=blablakinkin&oq=blablakinkin&aqs=chrome.0.57j60j61j60.171j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 [/URL]

    Description - keyword - link VS Link-Keyword
    Nothing changed here. Link - keyword is still ranking #1
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=woeldinipa&oq=woeldinipa&aqs=chrome.0.57.274j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 

    Tags - 2 different ways of stuffing
    Video A used to be #1 but Video B is now #1

    [​IMG]
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=habibianati&oq=habibianati&aqs=chrome.0.57.139j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 


    uploading video as keyword.mov VS normal.Mov
    Normal.mov is #1. But I think it is because they just got indexed.


    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=hazoeka+doetkanc&oq=hazoeka+doetkanc&aqs=chrome.0.57.447j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 


    Keyword stuffing VS normal optimized
    The keyword stuffed page was #1 when they got indexed but the normal optimized is now #1

    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=loenjiknuf&oq=loenjiknuf&aqs=chrome.0.57j62.244j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 

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    For the second test I will test this again with a few changes here and there. This is my new list if you have something to add to it please reply.

    Title - keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title.
    Title - keyword in the begin VS keyword at the end on the title.
    Description - Link to Wikipedia VS no link to Wikipedia.
    Description - long article VS short article.
    Description - keyword - link VS Link-Keyword.
    (New) Description - Internal link VS no internal link.
    Tags - Keyword stuffing the tags VS Normal tags.
    (New) Tags - 3 times the keyword in the tags VS 10 times the keyword in tags.
    (New) Long videos(5 min and 10min) VS short videos(30 sec and 1 min).
    uploading video as keyword.mov VS normal.Mov
    Keyword stuffed page VS normal optimized page.
     
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  6. audiobreather

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    Thank you for this! I am currently doing on page optimization for my youtube video. I hope you continue your second test.
     
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  7. rettaibi

    rettaibi Regular Member

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    I am starting today with it so it will be up within 2 days
     
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  8. rettaibi

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    What up, This is TEST 2.0 I am just going to post the results. And then in a week I will post and update and I will compare test 1.0 with 2.0 and see if it is the same and what I can do better. Then I will start with test 3.0 (Real and low keywords)

    Some videos that I made got marked as duplicate in google that didn't happen.
    I am going to see what the problem is and look for a way to make it look unique.
    And I will report back on that.

    Just a tip that might come in handy for some people. If you want to check your competitors tags, just click right mouse button and look at the source. Use ALT+f to find the word (keywords). You will find something like this:

    Code:
     <meta name="keywords" content="motivation, inspiration, inspirational, success, self-improvement, motivational, video"> 
    Title - keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title
    title with just the keyword is ranking #1
    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=bakiloeda&oq=bakiloeda&aqs=chrome.0.57j60l3j62l2.220j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL]



    (NEW)Title - Something + keyword VS keyword without something else.
    This is what I was talking about duplicate just click on show all results
    keyword only is also ranking #1
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=baldanipoens&oq=baldanipoens&gs_l=hp.3...918.918.0.1059.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.P-caMlZyWJE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 
    Title - keyword in the begin VS keyword at the end on the title.
    Keyword at the end is ranking #1
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=vartigahoe&oq=vartigahoe&gs_l=hp.12...508.508.0.1640.1.1.0.0.0.0.111.111.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.AHr0Q0gNJyc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 
    Description - Link to Wikipedia VS no link to Wikipedia
    The one without wiki link is ranking #1 but I think it will change.
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=hazalikani&oq=hazalikani&gs_l=hp.12...750.750.0.1732.1.1.0.0.0.0.128.128.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.4GAjECSRC38&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 
    Description - long article VS short article
    Long article is #1
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ponjikiata&oq=ponjikiata&gs_l=hp.3...1165.1165.0.1317.1.1.0.0.0.0.125.125.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.g9ytN4H3B9o&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 

    Description - keyword - link VS Link-Keyword
    Link - Keyword is winning this one at the moment.

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=huribaniu&oq=huribaniu&gs_l=hp.3...862.862.0.1306.1.1.0.0.0.0.231.231.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.0oFDis3bJE8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 



    (New) Description - Internal link VS no internal link
    no internal link is ranking #1 maybe because the internal link video is marked duplicate.
    We will see.
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=hatagiesow&oq=hatagiesow&gs_l=hp.3...304.304.0.1175.1.1.0.0.0.0.370.370.3-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.3N0V8XanHc8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 
    Tags - A VS B
    B is ranking #1
    [​IMG]

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=abdopanede&oq=abdopanede&gs_l=hp.3...163.163.0.933.1.1.0.0.0.0.298.298.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.-vx6B0WJa4Y&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 
    (New) Tags - 1 Tag VS more than 1 tag
    more than 1 tag is ranking #1

    [​IMG]
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#q=dokielapoe&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=65b014af1529b771&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL]

    (New) Tags - 3 times the keyword in the tags VS 10 times the keyword in tags.
    10 tags is ranking #1

    [​IMG]

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=yakimunesasew&oq=yakimunesasew&gs_l=hp.3...13425.13425.0.13596.1.1.0.0.0.0.133.133.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.Ij9pbaJZou4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 
    (New) Long videos(5 min and 10min) VS short videos(30 sec and 1 min)
    10 min is ranking #1 second is 5 then 1 min then 30sec
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#q=latamoetoe&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 





    Keyword stuffing VS normal optimized

    keyword stuffed is #1 but I think it will change, we will see
    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=pakaliendina&oq=pakaliendina&aqs=chrome.0.57.56156j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 

    (NEW)Description - Keyword density ~2,5% VS ~18%
    18% is ranking #1
    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=pakanidani&oq=pakanidani&aqs=chrome.0.57.454j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
    That is it update i'll update that this within a week and compare it to test 1.0 and then I'll start 3.0. If you have something to add feel free to pm or post in this thread.
     
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    thanks a lot for sharing your research, please go ahead
     
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    Didnt know about the description regarding authority links.

    Will give it a shot!
     
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    Any updates? amazing effort. Thank for posting this.
     
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    UPDATE (TEST 2.0)

    Whats up guys, took some time before I did an update on this one but that was because I was trying to figure out how to make a video look unique so I don?t get omitted.
    If you want to know what I am talking about this guy explains it.

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/549184-videos-not-showing-search-unless-you-type-exact-title.html#post5385675[/URL] 
    The only thing he says is that you can?t recover from that ?penalty? which is not true I recovered them. Some videos of this test where omitted and I recovered them I will tell you what I did but it will not work for real keywords.

    for real keywords you need to change much more.
    I also learned another thing while testing and that will help me when I am going find out how to crack the omitted mystery. And that is that if you edit a youtube video the title for example. Within 5 minutes it will be updated in google serps.

    I recovered one video from the ?omitted monster? (real keyword) by changing the likes on the video from show the like to don?t show the likes. As I said it will take a lot of testing before I?ll have the formula.

    Title ? keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title
    title with just the keyword is still ranking #1

    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=bakiloeda&oq=bakiloeda&aqs=chrome.0.57j60l3j62l2.220j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL]

    (NEW)Title ? Something + keyword VS keyword without something else.
    This is one of the videos that was omitted but I recovered it by just not showing the thumbs up/down from the video.

    [URL="http://i.imgur.com/kP3Wtmb.png%5b/IMG"]http://i.imgur.com/kP3Wtmb.png[/IMG[/URL]]

    Keyword only is still ranking #1
    [CODE] [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=baldanipoens&oq=baldanipoens&gs_l=hp.3...918.918.0.1059.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.P-caMlZyWJE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] [/CODE]






    [B]Title ? keyword in the begin VS keyword at the end on the title. [/B]
    Keyword at the end was ranking #1
    Now keyword at the begin is ranking #1

    [CODE] [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=vartigahoe&oq=vartigahoe&gs_l=hp.12...508.508.0.1640.1.1.0.0.0.0.111.111.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.AHr0Q0gNJyc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] [/CODE]

    [B]Description ? Link to Wikipedia VS no link to Wikipedia [/B]
    The one without wiki still ranking #1 but it changed one day the wiki link was ranking one the other day without we will see the true power when I am going to test 3.0 with real keyword because then it will have some websites in between.
    BTW the one with wiki link was omitted but when I changed the wiki link it got out of the omitted ?penalty?.

    [CODE] [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=hazalikani&oq=hazalikani&gs_l=hp.12...750.750.0.1732.1.1.0.0.0.0.128.128.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.4GAjECSRC38&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] [/CODE]

    [B]Description ? long article VS short article [/B]
    Long article is still #1

    [CODE] [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ponjikiata&oq=ponjikiata&gs_l=hp.3...1165.1165.0.1317.1.1.0.0.0.0.125.125.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.g9ytN4H3B9o&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] [/CODE]








    [B]Description ? keyword ? link VS Link-Keyword [/B]
    Link ? Keyword is still standing strong

    [CODE] [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=huribaniu&oq=huribaniu&gs_l=hp.3...862.862.0.1306.1.1.0.0.0.0.231.231.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.0oFDis3bJE8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] [/CODE]




    [B](New) Description - Internal link VS no internal link [/B]
    no internal link was ranking #1. The video with internal link is ranking #1 now.

    [CODE] [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=hatagiesow&oq=hatagiesow&gs_l=hp.3...304.304.0.1175.1.1.0.0.0.0.370.370.3-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.3N0V8XanHc8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] [/CODE]


    [B]Tags ? A VS B [/B]
    B is still ranking #1
    [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PxEH6W5.png

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=abdopanede&oq=abdopanede&gs_l=hp.3...163.163.0.933.1.1.0.0.0.0.298.298.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.-vx6B0WJa4Y&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 

    (New) Tags ? 1 Tag VS more than 1 tag
    more than 1 tag is still ranking #1

    [​IMG]

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#q=dokielapoe&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=65b014af1529b771&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL]
    (New) Tags - 3 times the keyword in the tags VS 10 times the keyword in tags.

    10 tags is also still ranking #1
    BTW the 10 tag video was also omitted I recovered it and it is ranking #1 now.
    this is what I did:
    First I changed the thumbs up thing but nothing happened.
    Then I changed the title and still nothing.
    after that I changed the description (added 2 words just to make it appear unique).
    and it helped.

    It is now shown but then I tried to get back into omitted results by changing the title back and the description by what it was. But it didn?t get back but no I see that I forgot to change the thumbs up and down thing back maybe that is why it is still shown.
    I am going to try that and I?ll report back later if necessary
    [​IMG]

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=yakimunesasew&oq=yakimunesasew&gs_l=hp.3...13425.13425.0.13596.1.1.0.0.0.0.133.133.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.Ij9pbaJZou4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 
    (New) Long videos(5 min and 10min) VS short videos(30 sec and 1 min)
    first they were ranking in order from 10 min to 30 sec.
    but something funny happened 2 videos disappeared the 5 min and the 30 sec maybe because I made 4 videos exactly the same from just 2 accounts I should have used 4 accounts I will do that in the next test.
    But 10 min is ranking #1 and 1 min is ranking second

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#q=latamoetoe&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 


    Keyword stuffing VS normal optimized

    keyword stuffed is still ranking #1.
    I am going to change this one (improve) don?t know how yet but we will see
    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=pakaliendina&oq=pakaliendina&aqs=chrome.0.57.56156j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 

    (NEW)Description - Keyword density ~2,5% VS ~18%
    18% is still ranking #1

    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=pakanidani&oq=pakanidani&aqs=chrome.0.57.454j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
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    For Test 3.0 (Real low keywords.)
    Title ? keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title
    Title ? keyword in the begin VS keyword at the end on the title.
    Description ? Link to Wikipedia VS no link to Wikipedia
    Description ? long article VS short article
    Description ? keyword ? link VS Link-Keyword
    Description - Internal link VS no internal link
    Tags ? Keyword stuffing the tags VS Normal tags
    Tags - 1 keyword the main VS more keywords
    Tags - 3 times the keyword in the tags VS 10 times the keyword in tags.
    Long videos(5 min and 10min) VS short videos(30 sec and 1 min)
    Keyword stuffing VS normal optimized(I might change this one)
    (NEW) Keyword in title only VS Keyword in the description only VS keyword in the tags only
    (NEW) The Video in a playlist(the name of the playlist is the keyword and has also other videos of same niche) VS no playlist.
    I saw a video where somebody did that playlist thing and he says that it gives you ranking well lets test it then :D.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I am going to compare the result from test 1 .0 and 2.0.
    after that I?ll start 3.0 and I am going to figure out how to get out of the omitted results.
     
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  13. rettaibi

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    I can only compare the things that I used in test 1.0 and 2.0 I added some new things when I started doing 2.0 I will compare those later in the next 2 tests.

    no conclusions yet until I finish all testing.
    If something changes I'll give a update and then I'll start 3.0


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    Title - keyword + something VS Keyword without something else in the title
    on both the tests keyword only is ranking #1

    TEST 1.0
    Code:
     [URL="http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&aqs=chrome.0.57.198j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&gs_l=serp.3...743729.743729.11.744066.1.1.0.0.0.0.258.258.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.ps"]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&aqs=chrome.0.57.198j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=paldokinas+polki&oq=paldokinas+polki&gs_l=serp.3...743729.743729.11.744066.1.1.0.0.0.0.258.258.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.ps [/URL]
    TEST 2.0
    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=bakiloeda&oq=bakiloeda&aqs=chrome.0.57j60l3j62l2.220j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL]

    Title - keyword in the begin VS keyword at the end on the title
    keyword at the begin is ranking #1 on test 2.0
    and on test 1.0 the keyword at the end is ranking #1

    TEST 1.0
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=farkoesa+moenjija&oq=farkoesa+moenjija&aqs=chrome.0.57j62l3.885j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
    TEST 2.0
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=vartigahoe&oq=vartigahoe&gs_l=hp.12...508.508.0.1640.1.1.0.0.0.0.111.111.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.AHr0Q0gNJyc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 


    Description - Link to Wikipedia VS no link to Wikipedia
    on both tests the video without the wiki link is ranking #1


    TEST 1.0
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=bakiunfoedi&oq=bakiunfoedi&aqs=chrome.0.57.173j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL]
    
    TEST 2.0

    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=hazalikani&oq=hazalikani&gs_l=hp.12...750.750.0.1732.1.1.0.0.0.0.128.128.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.4GAjECSRC38&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=2c38ac0886f37b86&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 

    Description - long article VS short article
    On test 1.0 the long article is ranking #2 on test 2.0 long article is ranking #1

    TEST 1.0
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=blablakinkin&oq=blablakinkin&aqs=chrome.0.57j60j61j60.171j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
    TEST 2.0
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ponjikiata&oq=ponjikiata&gs_l=hp.3...1165.1165.0.1317.1.1.0.0.0.0.125.125.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.g9ytN4H3B9o&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 



    Description - keyword - link VS Link-Keyword
    On both the test "link - keyword" is ranking #1

    TEST 1.0
    Code:
     [URL="http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=woeldinipa&oq=woeldinipa&aqs=chrome.0.57.274j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=woeldinipa&oq=woeldinipa&aqs=chrome.0.57.274j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 [/URL]
    TEST 2.0
    Code:
     [URL]http://www.google.nl/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=huribaniu&oq=huribaniu&gs_l=hp.3...862.862.0.1306.1.1.0.0.0.0.231.231.2-1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.0oFDis3bJE8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.Yms&fp=6b608126034aa846&biw=1024&bih=667[/URL] 

    Keyword stuffing VS normal optimized
    normal optimized wins on both tests

    TEST 1.0
    Code:
     [URL]http://blankrefer.com/?https://www.google.com/search?q=loenjiknuf&oq=loenjiknuf&aqs=chrome.0.57j62.244j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
    TEST 2.0
    Code:
     [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=pakaliendina&oq=pakaliendina&aqs=chrome.0.57.56156j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL] 
     
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  14. LostMyPants

    LostMyPants Newbie

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    This is some great info you are sharing here! Sorry to bump it, but have you got any updates? I've been following the results of your tests and also using them to rank right now. I hope everything hasn't changed drastically in a week :)
     
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  15. flowerz

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    Amazing post. Thanks for bumping it, otherwise I would have not seen it. Great work by the author!
     
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  16. Zuuuu

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    Damn
    Great tutorial
    A lot of youtubers will like this and give you nice reputation
    Anyways thanks a lot for your sharing!!
     
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  17. rettaibi

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    I was trying to figure out the omitted thingy but still no good news.
    I'll check if something changed on the tests and then I'll start 3.0.
    it will be up within ~ 4 days
     
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    keep it simple..this is the most important thing...put only the most important words in the title without hyphens/dashes..DESCRIPTION is the thing which counts most when it comes to showing ur videos in the search results..add some unique words/ur channel name?auto-subscribe url in the description so that in the recommended list at least some of ur vids show up. In descriptions if t's gaming content add lots of cool fresh names of games no matter what ur content is. and do KEYWORD Research in analytics..always use the Words/keywords in the description and tags which have brought u the highest no. of referrals/views; you would find in the analytics. And include all the keywords which the analytics would list b4 u as the topmost or most frequently searched words on youtube helping viewers to discover ur video. My channel /Only1indrajit..u can visit anytime u want
     
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    This is a great post. A lot of YouTubers think that all it takes to rank a video is views. On page optimization plays a big part too.
     
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    Long time with no update, I still find this the best topic to follow, when creating YT videos. Not too much sample on my side, but it really seems to work. How are the tests going rettaibi? Any new interesting findings? Would love to hear others experience, who are following these tests, too.