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Your thoughts on joomla..?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by pwntribe, Feb 27, 2010.

  1. ukescuba

    ukescuba Senior Member

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    what was the experience of these people using joomla doing these tests? what where the actual tests based on?

    if i was to believe this i would not for one minute even consider using joomla for my seo business clients

    however for me joomla ranks very well every single site ive done for both my seo clients and my own seo projects all use joomla... perhaps im just crazy and i dont actually want the best seo solution for me and my clients! ;)
     
  2. theleanhorse

    theleanhorse Junior Member

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    No discussion about Drupal?

    I've used Drupal, Joomla, and WP for many sites and unless there's a good reason I always go back to WP. It's just so easy to get up and running. I like Drupal a lot better than Joomla. I found Joomla's interface really difficult to understand - I guess I never made it past the steep learning curve people are talking about. Drupal just seemed a lot more intuitive and there seems to be a lot more free plugins / modules. So my vote is for WP on simple sites (which 99% of sites out there are) and Drupal for ones where you need some additional functionality like a forum, more user account options, multiple people running completely different sections of a site, etc.
     
  3. jay2success

    jay2success Registered Member

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    Joomla is the best, it needs time to learn about it but you can do other things that WP can't. I loves using Joomla and it have very complete and professional features. I also can tweak and add anything i want. I can develop SEO plugin for Joomla so i have no problem with SEO, etc. Lately one of my BHW friends switched to Joomla after i made him joomla website for CPA offer. He switched all his WP websites because he said Joomla much powerful than WP if done right.
     
  4. jyang

    jyang Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    go with WP or Drupal, those are the best CMSes in my experience...
     
  5. judson

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    Done right, you can't really go wrong with any of the big 3, WP, Joomla and Drupal.

    They all have their strengths and weaknesses. However, to be able to recommend one over the others, you need to understand the problem on hand, the CMS systems themselves, and the skillsets of the final users. None of that is easy.

    There are many things that can slow a site down, and wrongly configured any of the 3 can run like molasses.

    My personal biggest gripe with Joomla is the paid modules route that it has taken. Plus, there is no guarantee that the module you are paying for works well, and just as importantly, plays nice with any of the other modules you have paid good money for.

    Truth is, most people are best sticking to WP, and leaving Joomla and Drupal (my personal fav) alone. Heck, even I do not use Drupal on 90% of the sites I build and I love it. YMMV.
     
  6. waynezz

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    IMO, Joomla is no longer a great CMS like before. Nowadays, you can easily create a "portal" like Joomla using WP with the right theme and plugins, because WP has improved greatly over the last few years. Not to mention that WP is performing way much better in SEO.
     
  7. smallpile

    smallpile Newbie

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    My opinion, If you are a programmer you will love more joomla than wordpress, more structure code, but if you are normal user , WP is good choice
     
  8. pwntribe

    pwntribe Registered Member

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    nginx? What hosts support it? Everything I see runs on apache,

    just looked at hostgator and can't find it anywhere

    EDIT: Just found it, nginx not available for hostgator shared/reseller accounts....That sucks.

     
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  9. ukescuba

    ukescuba Senior Member

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    im looking forward to the next version of Joomla 1.6 it has some much needed additional features, that should take it to the next level

    everyone thats commented has good points and like i mentioned at the end of the day its comes down to personal taste and what works for you :)

    dont get me wrong im not saying WP or Drupal are shit far from it - there just not for me and my needs :)
     
  10. seoasia

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    Joomla! is an open source content management system platform for publishing content on the World Wide Web and intranets as well as Web application framework
     
  11. freller

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    I've used both Joomla and WP extensively and these are purely user experiences:-

    1) A simple J1.0x site will load every bit as fast as any WP site but a typical J1.5 site with a JoomlArt or RocketTheme theme will take from now till doomsday to fully load.

    2) Joomla is a security nightmare - the only sites I've ever had hacked used Joomla.

    3) Plugins are regularly broken by the core updates plus so many of them are way overpriced and single site licences only. Joomla has become open harvest for all the "specialist" providers out there.

    4) It's not difficult to understand, just different - if you'd never used WP you'd think it was entirely normal and logical.

    5) It used to provide a whole heap more functionality and options than WP but that advantage has now pretty well disappeared.

    6) The templates also used to be more professional and adaptable than the choices for WP but that advantage has now also completely disappeared.

    7) All the search engines really love Joomla sites and that's their sole saving grace.

    There is nothing you can do in Joomla that you can't do in WP and a whole lot easier too. On the other hand, there's a mass of utilities available for WP that I doubt will ever become available for Joomla. Overall, I've pretty well abandoned Joomla for WP and I'm a lot happier for it.
     
  12. seoboss007

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    I have thought all the time which cms I would prefer and I have installed joomla 1.5 with a good template and not so many plugins, only 3 small. On my webspace joomla runs not so fast. If anybody has good tipps to optimize the load time please give us your experience here thanks. Very hard decision between joomla and drupal. Some say joomla and others drupal so what do you prefer on drupal ???
     
  13. testeee

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    I'm a big big fan of drupal. The more I use it.. the more I despise joomla and wp. I use it with aegir ( http://groups.drupal.org/aegir-hosting-system ) and you can crap out a new site in seconds, with all your settings already pre-configured (create one site then clone it and just change basic info = easy... or create an install profile = hard).

    Everyone always talks about how wp is sooo good at SEO but pshhhh... drupal is just as good (the big boys use it - whitehouse.gov) and can do things faster (again aegir).

    Drupal is as seo-able as you can get after you tweak your robot, global redirects, path auto, etc... but you only have to do that once (remember aegir?).

    You want some ahh-thats-nice-seo... go drupal. You want to do the same thing over and over... do wp. If you want to struggle w/ seo... go joomla.
     
  14. MrBlue

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    Amen to that! :)
     
  15. UnDerDoG81

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    bavahz Registered Member

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    I'm naive on it but, searching CMS I found lots of good press on "Ruby On Rails"
    some sites using it are Basecamp, Shopify,Hulu,43Things,Scribd,Urban Dictionary and
    Twitter and Yellowpages,SLideshare and Odeo
    Looks most interesting,any here using Ruby On Rails and care to give feedback on it VS Drupal,WP or Joomla?

    Thanks,
    JB
     
  17. writeway

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    I think the major difference is that the support from developers is available far more for WP then Joomla with so many people using the former
     
  18. nossie

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    I'm waiting for the new joomla 1.6 which should be much cleaner. In my opinion 1.5 is to slow and bloated especially for smaller websites.
     
  19. Entrepreneur

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    I think the only people that say WP is better than Joomla and/or Drupal have never used Joomla and only ever used a blog not a proper cms.

    Joomla and WP shouldn't even be compared in my opinion. Joomla is on a whole different plain to WP. Seriously, WP is a blog that can be used like a cms. Joomla is a proper cms, it makes WP look like MS Paint in comparison to Photoshop, because it's not a blog, it's a proper cms.

    In conclusion, Joomla is the bollocks. I've never used Drupal, so don't know how it stacks up, but WP is not a viable alternative for a proper site, regardless of template or plugins.
     
  20. judson

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    You are trying to compare Apples and uhhhmmm, Fish. They are both food items but very very different.

    Rails is a programming framework. There are CMS built on rails that you could begin to compare to WP/Joomla/Drupal.

    The Ruby community in general is smaller than the PHP community. The Rails community more so. I played with RoR a lot a couple of years ago. There weren't really any CMS systems worth talking about really. Not sure if the situation has changed since.

    That said, if I was looking to build a solution from scratch, I would certainly consider RoR as the base framework.

    I hate to say this, but if you are asking, stick to WP.