tony_d
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- Jun 22, 2013
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Thanks guys.
I do appreciate the opportunity for a reply, and I don't wish to create a storm in a teacup and ordinarily don't have much to say about matters of moderating this forum, but I do stand behind what I've said above, which is that I think pewep has been unreasonably given license to have religious discussions and post comments relating to his religious beliefs.
I'll clarify first that I didn't say he was 'prosletyzing', rather I said there was a comment by a mod that 'tacitly acknowledges' him to be 'peddling religious beliefs', and by that I mean he is doing so by being given a forum (figuratively, and literally) on which to post his views.
To my understanding, it's against the rules here on BHW to have any type of religious discussion - which then goes to your question about which was the post that had me take the view that at least one mod also believes it to be a religious view, and in answer to that, I've bolded in a quote below the words that led me to that view.
I don't think one would say 'anyone else's religion' if one didn't think that pewep was having discussion about his religion.
That's all.
Hence I take the view that if one writes words such as that, they, somewhere in their mind, interpret peweps posts as religious in nature.
As I also said above, I'm certain I couldn't be a fair moderator, and I haven't any issue at all with the moderation of this forum in any other instance - I know it's open to all and sundry to post whatever they like, and in the face of that, I think all the mods do a great job, particularly given they're volunteering their time. However, in the case of pewep, as I've said above, I think he's been granted license on an ongoing basis to discuss things that, according to the rules as I understand them, ought not be discussed on BHW.
If you go to the spirit of why religious discussion is prohibited on BHW, it surely has to be so as to avoid contentious threads and discussions that ultimately don't benefit the forum in any way, but do instead stand to create feelings of ill will between members - which in my view describes perfectly the 'meditation' posts.
So even in the event that one took a view that 'meditation' discussion does not fall within the definition of 'religious discussion' per that which is prohibited on BHW, one must acknowledge that the intent behind prohibiting religious discussion must also be served by prohibiting things that might not fall directly within the scope of prohibition.
I just can't see that it will do any good for this community to allow discussion about religion, meditation, politics, or anything else that is both useless and contentious.
I think, if this forum is not to become a place of ill-will between members, and potentially a ground for contentious (albeit useless) commentary, arising from totally unrelated and useless topics, 'meditation' and other spiritual posts need to be classified as 'religious' in nature, and thereby prohibited.
I do appreciate the opportunity for a reply, and I don't wish to create a storm in a teacup and ordinarily don't have much to say about matters of moderating this forum, but I do stand behind what I've said above, which is that I think pewep has been unreasonably given license to have religious discussions and post comments relating to his religious beliefs.
Oh really? Exactly where is that comment from a Mod that we consider pewep as proselytizing? I went through the thread and can't find it.
I'll clarify first that I didn't say he was 'prosletyzing', rather I said there was a comment by a mod that 'tacitly acknowledges' him to be 'peddling religious beliefs', and by that I mean he is doing so by being given a forum (figuratively, and literally) on which to post his views.
To my understanding, it's against the rules here on BHW to have any type of religious discussion - which then goes to your question about which was the post that had me take the view that at least one mod also believes it to be a religious view, and in answer to that, I've bolded in a quote below the words that led me to that view.
I can't see anything offensive about his posts and they don't dump on anyone else's religion. Good natured banter is one thing but some of the comments directed at him seem borderline abusive. If you think the posts are breaking the rules, report it and we'll deal with them.
I don't think one would say 'anyone else's religion' if one didn't think that pewep was having discussion about his religion.
That's all.
Hence I take the view that if one writes words such as that, they, somewhere in their mind, interpret peweps posts as religious in nature.
As I also said above, I'm certain I couldn't be a fair moderator, and I haven't any issue at all with the moderation of this forum in any other instance - I know it's open to all and sundry to post whatever they like, and in the face of that, I think all the mods do a great job, particularly given they're volunteering their time. However, in the case of pewep, as I've said above, I think he's been granted license on an ongoing basis to discuss things that, according to the rules as I understand them, ought not be discussed on BHW.
If you go to the spirit of why religious discussion is prohibited on BHW, it surely has to be so as to avoid contentious threads and discussions that ultimately don't benefit the forum in any way, but do instead stand to create feelings of ill will between members - which in my view describes perfectly the 'meditation' posts.
So even in the event that one took a view that 'meditation' discussion does not fall within the definition of 'religious discussion' per that which is prohibited on BHW, one must acknowledge that the intent behind prohibiting religious discussion must also be served by prohibiting things that might not fall directly within the scope of prohibition.
I just can't see that it will do any good for this community to allow discussion about religion, meditation, politics, or anything else that is both useless and contentious.
I think, if this forum is not to become a place of ill-will between members, and potentially a ground for contentious (albeit useless) commentary, arising from totally unrelated and useless topics, 'meditation' and other spiritual posts need to be classified as 'religious' in nature, and thereby prohibited.