xrumer + senuke on a new domain

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iamok22

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my question is simple,

i have learned to use senuke but i have not done it yet since i am waiting for some articles to be ready.
i will buy xrumer too but i will not buy a dedicated server since my pc is enough good.

i will use new domains and i do not want to be banned or sandboxed by google for using xrumer.
how should i do???

have i to blast my linkweel instead than my primary website?
what kind of result can i get if i act in this way?very slow results?

i need fast results in a niche that is not very competitive but i am scared that using xrumer and senuke on a new domain can get me sandboxed or banned?

what would you do if you were in my position?
 
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i'd be careful when mixing drugs -cough- i mean senuke and xrumer... google is becoming keen to unnatural backlinking patterns
 
i know...this is the reason i am asking here.maybe someone is using them togheter...and can give me some tips.

ps: should i buy aged domains to avoid the ban-sandbox?
 
iamok22 said:
i need fast results in a niche that is not very competitive but i am scared that using xrumer and senuke on a new domain can get me sandboxed or banned?

what would you do if you were in my position?
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My experience in spamming websites (be it craigslist, web2, or anything else user generated) is that moderation is key. Especially if the niche is not that competitive, you DONT need to come out of the gate guns blazing. Build the links slowly over time so they look more natural. The name of the game is links that stick (on the respective blogs, forums, web2s, etc) and links that get indexed (i.e. don't trip google's unnatural linking patterns - as another poster pointed out).

Good luck.
 
One tip for you...don't just link to the homepage.

Spread the backlinks across pages of your site for a more natural look and feel.
 
thanx for your suggestions...anyway i still remain a little confused.
i read about many people blasting with xrumer like crazy.....they clearly do not use moderation so how they avoid to be banned or sadboxed?
do they use only old domains for this?
 
I say fuck it - blast away and see what happens lol. I am curious myself with both of those. See if you can get like 15-20k in 1 week, go for super high competition keyword or maybe something cool like "how to cheat google" lol

At least you can say you live in the fast lane...
 
I think senuke is OK as I don't see any part that can really cause you to be sandboxed. But i did get sandboxed with xrumer.

Even piggyback urls got sandboxed. Some come back and some don't. Those that come back either improve their positions or stay about the same. I guess you have to becareful with xrumer. Experiment until you find some good solutions.

At critical periods like launching, don't use xrumer as you can end up with your site disappearing for a week or two and by the time you get back the position the action is over.
 
Mage both senuke and xrumer in the wrong hands are lethal, use them wisely and they are superb and most of the commonsense comes down to how you approach your backlinking and l am talking from real world having done it experience and testing not opinion.

Always...always protect your money website especially if its a new domain or any domain that you host.

You should have a layer or maybe two or three rings of web 2 , blogs, etc the link only one way back to your oney site.

Let me tell you know if l blasted a new domain and got 2000 links in the first month l would be in trouble but here is the fun bit.......take an article that you put up on a web 2 property like hubpages or squidoo, these sites have 1000's of new backlinks coming into them each dat so its no bog deal with the search engines, let them sites give you the jouice and if one goes down it protects your money site.
 
iamok22 said:
thanx for your suggestions...anyway i still remain a little confused.
i read about many people blasting with xrumer like crazy.....they clearly do not use moderation so how they avoid to be banned or sadboxed?
do they use only old domains for this?
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I use a mixture of aged (older than 2 years) and new domains (less than 3 months old) and I have not had a issue. I don't blast the same link over and over as I do a lot of rotating. The key is to do it in moderation. Also creating profiles (not posting) is good for new domains.
 
I looked into a site whose domain age is just 76 days has PR2 for homepage and ranks no.1 to many keywords.
How is he doing it?
 
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