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xrumer : it's not so great...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by proutprout, Oct 6, 2009.

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  1. proutprout

    proutprout Newbie

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    I had a discussion with a friend of mine who just finished his first steps with xrumer ; he bought this soft because he was curious of what it could really do. After the results :

    - he first tried fetched 910 forums. The scraper seems works fine, he has nothing much to say about that.

    - the first posting : he wrote a message, and ...
    Out of the 910 forums, only 25 messages were really posted (announced by xrumer). Well, and after analysis it seems that only 1/4 messages were really posted bu Xrumer. So that makes arround 5 messages really posted for ~1000 forums fetched. What a loss !

    Now considering that the only messages that were posted were on spam forums, I don't thing the experience is really helpfull at all. Except maybe if you want to pass sandboxing PR to your website...
     
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    dumdum4gumgum Power Member

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    Maybe your not doing it Right.
    I did a list yesterday with 355 forums
    got 189 succesful post All for cookie stuffing :p
    There is a guide on here that should help you out good info
     
  3. azxten

    azxten Junior Member

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    910 forums?

    You should be able to generate a list around 100,000 large in a few hours. Using your 5 links per 1,000 as an example a 100,000 list would get you 500 links. You can gather and post to those 100,000 links in a single day easily. Doing so would kind of be pointless though as that is way too many links to get in a day in most cases.

    Make 100 web 2.0 properties in groups of 10 interlinking. Then run the above linking to 1 of these 100 randomly. At the end of the day you'll have 10 groups of 10 web 2.0 properties and every page will have 5 backlinks.
     
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    I have added 400 forums and 273 are working properly.Its a big achievement for me for the day..

    Thanks

    Stevel John
     
  5. divinewind

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    I have been thinking about getting it. What results can it actually produce as far as bottom line? (visits / non-bounce visits)
     
  6. ProteinX

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    5% seems to be within normal range. I got that from one of the service sites.

    P.S. whoever owns that site (Kings), it's offline at my end, I got the review from the cache.

    Apparently xrumer isnt too easy to use so a 1 day test might be too soon to say its useless.
     
  7. Joslo

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    I've never used xrumer but when I googled "xrumertest" I was impressed 97.800 results in quotes... Someone knows his business.
     
  8. Serpico

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    Rofl, it's funny searching for xrumer info on google. You get to see all the xrumer spam sent out by botmaster. Like:

    Where can I download xrumer?

    And then someone will post the answer for the bot.
     
  9. proutprout

    proutprout Newbie

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    Honestly I think anyone could have a 50%+ rate return on forum posting by building your own tools. Building a scraper is a joke. Building a forum poster is a task that's only characteristic is time consumption. To get a 5% rate you don't even need to break captchas, you can rely on "no captcha" forums to do just that.

    You guys are telling me that you need to harass 200K forums for a 5% return rate, argh come on ! Under 50% I don't need any software, it's quicker to do it by hand, and at that rate, at least you're able to get "quality forums", and not just the over spammed ones !

    So is xrumer really able to achieve anything real ?
     
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    well yea gotta learn the tricks in using it.
    i dont think its over anyones reach tho.. continue to try and experiment

    at the end of the day, it still has a user interface right?

    :)
     
  11. SharePro

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    There are 4 types of db's for Xrumer. I don't have time to explain the DB's or the software, but I will make it simple.

    What you need is Zlinks databases which is a database generated by "successful links". In other words, if you scrape 100k forums, blogs and message boards relative to your online activity (Xrumer calls this a LinksList) but after you run the DB, and successfully post messages, a new seperate DB is generated called Zlinks that contains a list of all the forums that we're successful. The Zlinks also includes additional info such as parser and captcha breaking info - so that in the future, when using a zlinks db, the posting is much faster and accurate.

    In short, what you need are databases of 500k Zlinks which will get you at least 250k successful posts. I have over 18 million Zlinks db's. I sell these types of db's :)

    PM me for more info....

    Cheers,
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    yes...
    in my tests w/xrummer....i never spam my link in the first run...
    i mean, i'll add my bh link in the profile or sig....but never in a post...
    cuz imo, the first blast is to kinda see which are the working forums and stuff


    in my first blast, hrefer came up w/12k forum list....in the end i got 1k working list

    now i'm starting to spam my bh/throwaway site using my zlink database :)

    keep experimenting....

     
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    A success rate of 7-12% is expected, you need to up your game and then analyse the software, before saying it's not that good, because I'm sure 1000's of people disagree with you...
     
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    well i own it few days now and still experimenting

    hrefer is a really great software but xrumer has lots of problems yet.

    5% was my ratio too. If your posting on forums is niche related , the zlinklist generated is really useless for the next niche.... This is why I consider useless db's with zlinks that are being sold by some xrumer owners

    This is my very first opinion for this tool however and I still need to do some experiments in order to discover it's potential (if it has one) :)
     
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    Also pointless as its so damn easy to make a decent list ...
     
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    Well so what I understand of xrumer, the only way to make profit then is to cross the line of beeing a massive scale spammer. You need a server connected 24/h and litterally spam millions of forums to get a decent return.
    Zlists are nice but it seems impossible to work for a niche keyword (ex : "buy online caterpillars denver") ; the only way to work is by getting one big keywords ("music") and consume your zlist to death.

    What I'm saying is that with that kind of tool it's far more easy then to beat the market with your own buildings. No need to be the spammer everyone hates so much ;-)
     
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    Keep on dreaming..
     
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    You quite clearly don't have a clue :cool:
     
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    my list is about 1k big.....and i'm on the first page of google for my target keyword....

    :D

     
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    ok, ok, ok, I'm missing somehting. Tell me guys : is it really possible to automate xrumer to do this process :
    - 1. grab a keyword like "rock music seatle" from somewhere
    - 2. find 5.000 forums
    - 3. post the message "hey guys do you know where..." with a link
    - 4. go to 1 automatically

    ?