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WTF, what happened to CB payment system?

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by cbcjlink, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. cbcjlink

    cbcjlink Newbie

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    What happened to CB payment system?

    11.11.2014
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    Thank you for your inquiry!


    There is nothing wrong with your account. We have our reasons why we don't allow VISA transactions for a very small number of our vendors in the ****** niche, and existing subscription were cancelled, and as a business decision quite a few refunded. These measures are in place to protect our business and that of our clients. There are costs and penalties due to high chargeback rates involved that is driving our action in this matter.
     
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  2. joeb1ow

    joeb1ow Regular Member

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    dont you find it strange that all the payments we used with v.i.s.a.
    looks like a red flag to me

    -joeb1ow
     
  3. mancar487

    mancar487 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You're promoting a junk product (most likely a 'make money online' or 'forex' one), hence why you have so many refunds.

    Or, the fault lies not with the product but with your advertising tactics (e.g. making claims that the vendor does not make).

    Mancar
     
  4. acidol2

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    Ohh shit lol. You dun fucked up somewhere.

    My advice is to stop whatever you're doing, and pin point the problem.

    The product, niche, advertising method, claims you made about the product, etc.

    Because with that many refunds you're doing something seriously wrong.
     
  5. sixsevenx

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    I have the same problem. I've been promoting this product for over a year and then today I saw this:
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    plus all the recurring subscriptions were cancelled!
     
  6. sixsevenx

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    I noticed that most (not all) of mine where made with a v.i.s.a. as well. Some of the refunds go back a couple months :(
     
  7. sixsevenx

    sixsevenx Newbie

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    Just heard back from my affiliate manager:


    I'm glad you have reached out.
    Clickbank has refunded and cancelled v.i.s.a. subscriptions. Something to do
    with their merchant account. We have gotten very little information from
    them on this. This week we heard that on Nov 17 clickbank will no longer
    allow investigation products on the network. No more new sales will be
    processed. Rebills will be processed on everything but v.i.s.a.(we think). This
    is obviously unfortunate and we are confused and hurt by the treatment
    Clickbank has given us after being a premier vendor with them for many
    years.


    I'd like you to you continue promoting my offers through revenuewire. We
    have seen conversions and retention to be higher than clickbank anyway. All
    the same tools are there so you just need to change your links.
     
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  8. Shane1

    Shane1 Registered Member

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    A few weeks ago, they cancelled all subscriptions using Visa all on the same day (some of my cancelled subscriptions had been active for over 2 years, and my predicted refund rate was 8% back before that feature was removed). They now seem to be retroactively refunding all Visa transactions for the past 90 days. I was negative for last week and would not be surprised if I remain so for the next few weeks or so until the backlog is clear, which may in turn cause the account to become flagged as a high risk account in need of some punishment, albeit perhaps not a permanent one. I'm not sure they will necessarily refund everything, but I would be prepared for that as a worst case scenario.
     
  9. mancar487

    mancar487 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Were they investigation products? Clickbank appears to be stopping all these products; my guess would be that it's cause they can fall in a regulatory grey area.
     
  10. Shane1

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    Yes, it is that specific niche. No problem with anything else I am promoting. My take on the situation was that they got threatened by Visa (could be chargebacks/refunds or also regulatory concerns are a plausible explanation) and are now taking the action proactively to avoid the same problem with the other card issuers.
     
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  11. wisdomkid

    wisdomkid Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    This is bad, at the very least, what they would have done, is message everyone of their affiliates and kindly inform them of these little change that will affect their business hugely!
     
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    You have to be kidding me! I have over $100 in refunds today from visa... So everyday I should expect refunds?
     
  13. TrevorB

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    Well I have nothing to worry about. I have not sold a CB product in over a year. LOL
     
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    Are you promoting PDF's ore soemthing?
     
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    I don't really understand why you think this is funny? That's a lot of hard work and sales down the drain for a lot of people.
     
  17. joeb1ow

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    naw and im even shocked my spidey senses were spot on for v.i.s.a being the issue lol

    -joeb1ow
     
  18. Zwielicht

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    It's not the situation that's funny, it's Clickbank (I really need to choose better gifs). They just issue impromptu refunds without warning any of their affiliates, especially the affiliates who rely on this niche for income, about the change.
     
  19. cbcjlink

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    ====update=========
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    Thank you for your inquiry!


    There is nothing wrong with your account. We have our reasons why we don't allow VISA transactions for a very small number of our vendors in the ****** niche, and existing subscription were cancelled, and as a business decision quite a few refunded. These measures are in place to protect our business and that of our clients. There are costs and penalties due to high chargeback rates involved that is driving our action in this matter.
     
  20. Zwielicht

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    So they are not allowing Visa because of high chargeback rates that are plaguing their business? If that's the case, do you plan on staying with Clickbank even though it has affected your own business or will you be switching to a new affiliate network?