WTF is going on with PayPal

dvc said:

Sellers don't like paypal. Buyers love paypal. A customer will only ude paypal because it offers them safety. So they always have a way to return their funds in case something went wrong. A buyer will always choose paypal because they dont trust the seller. A seller will always hate paypal because they dont trust the buyer, and the cycle goes on.

Personnaly I wish paypal goes out of business

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true. I like Paypal when I buy something and hate it when I sell lol.
Elon Musk created Paypal, then he left Paypal and created Stripe.
Maybe he knew Paypal will collapse one day.

shandar said:

I don't know which method is safe now, never thought PayPal would do such things like a shit.

I just spoke to the PayPal team and answer is: It's an automated process (I was like WTH) it's completely childish and said they will solve this issue as soon as possible maybe in 3-4 days. Let's hope for the best.


Maybe, I think so.

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Don't risk your funds with paypal, they are crazy. They can hold your funds for months

shandar said:

Hello Everyone,

I have been using PayPal for the past 3 years soon after I started SEO and after successfully passing these years yesterday I got a mail from PayPal and asked me to submit some informations and proof.

Soon after submitting all these informations they permanently limited my account and they held my funds for 180 days. Now, I can't make payments nor I can receive payments.

Does anyone know about this? Or how should I solve this issue? I would really appreciate your suggestions.



Thanks in advance.

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FINALLY, I got my Funds back after six months and I really appreciate the members who suggested and your advices are really helpful.

When PayPal held funds I used to get payments via Crypto, Wise Bank Transfer, Stripe, and Payoneer. What I suggest is never depend on any one Single Payment Methods. Always keep backups.

Happy Weekend.

That's great, but many clients won't prefer Crypto for their protection.

Stripe is good when compared to PayPal you can use that.

shandar said:

FINALLY, I got my Funds back after six months and I really appreciate the members who suggested and your advices are really helpful.

When PayPal held funds I used to get payments via Crypto, Wise Bank Transfer, Stripe, and Payoneer. What I suggest is never depend on any one Single Payment Methods. Always keep backups.

Happy Weekend.

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Same, my account got limited with 400€ but after 6 Months, you can transfer to card.

shandar said:

That's great, but many clients won't prefer Crypto for their protection.

Stripe is good when compared to PayPal you can use that.

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I had stripe and stripe is too easy for fraud, u need to add rules otherwise ur money is goneY

Visual1337 said:

I had stripe and stripe is too easy for fraud, u need to add rules otherwise ur money is goneY

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Fraud but how? Can elaborate in detail so i can avoid for my future transactions.

shandar said:

Fraud but how? Can elaborate in detail so i can avoid for my future transactions.

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They used some stolen CC and transaction went thru without any problems, stripe is bad for it. But I enabled 3d auth (or whatever it’s called) since that, no fraud anymore. Stripe is doing less security checks so yeah.

Thanks man, i will have a look at this.

shandar said:

That's great, but many clients won't prefer Crypto for their protection.

Stripe is good when compared to PayPal you can use that.

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Yeah, some people would prefer paypal or such services because they have option to try and charge back/refund while with crypto you are one who can give them refund, they can't charge back, so lets say you have long term customer and something happens and he used paypal or some service where bank/credit card is involved he can submit and try to get his money back and screw you over, EVEN tho your service and delivery was all perfect. Anyways sometimes it's just not possible due some specific things, each on their own anyways..

Dioxide4444 said:

Yeah, some people would prefer paypal or such services because they have option to try and charge back/refund while with crypto you are one who can give them refund, they can't charge back, so lets say you have long term customer and something happens and he used paypal or some service where bank/credit card is involved he can submit and try to get his money back and screw you over, EVEN tho your service and delivery was all perfect. Anyways sometimes it's just not possible due some specific things, each on their own anyways..

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I had a few customers they hear the word CRYPTO and say I might get scammed, while they have no idea how it work. Me like ye crypto good, he like I might get scammed… another guy my team has no experience with crypto so we can get scammed. (Me: use binance you can easy manage and see payments) idk

shandar said:

That's great, but many clients won't prefer Crypto for their protection.

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Well, what no one realizes, is that times have changed. Let me explain :-
NOWADAYS, let's say a buyer buys smm services, proxies, etc and pays by Paypal and let us assume the buyer has some issues and raises a dispute (chargeback) at Paypal, then Paypal will even suspend the Paypal account of such a buyer, ofcourse apart from suspending the Paypal account of the seller. But why ? Because, NOWADAYS, Paypal considers smm services, proxies, etc as "counterfeit" products or as "counterfeit" services.
Before, in the case of a buyer raising a dispute with Paypal, related to a transaction where the buyer bought smm services, proxies, etc, Paypal would only screw the seller of smm services, proxies, etc. But, NOWADAYS, for the same, Paypal will screw BOTH the seller AND the buyer (for smm services, proxies, etc).
So, if one is a seller of smm services, proxies, etc, one needs to inform any potential buyer who wishes to pay with Paypal, that "Be ready to get your Paypal account suspended, for buying smm services, proxies, etc, because such products / services violate Paypal's T&Cs, as Paypal considers smm services, proxies, etc as "counterfeit" products or as "counterfeit" services". It is as pretty simple as that. Nonetheless, it is sad to see that many people (including mainly sellers), feel shy to communicate clearly and transparently with buyers (potential buyers) and then, as a result, BOTH the sellers AND the buyers eventually end up getting screwed by Paypal.
If anyone is a seller of smm services, proxies, etc, and is shy, then, as explained above, the first step towards COMPLETELY avoiding getting screwed by Paypal, is to overcome shyness and communicate clearly and transparently with buyers (potential buyers) regarding to what is explained above.