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Withdraw from PayPal problem! Please help

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by DanielRep, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. DanielRep

    DanielRep Newbie

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    Hello fellow blackhatters!

    I have a problem with a stealth Paypal account that I have been using for the past year. I have never tried to withdraw money from it.I was using it to make purchases.

    I purchased a stealth PayPal account from a Filipino girl back in February. The account was 2 years old, with zero money in it. I started using it for my business...accepted payments for about 6 months, all good, no chargebacks no problems. After 6 months I got the account limited...I provided business license, all the docs required, tracking numbers for the package and everything.

    They removed the limitation and now I have $6300 in the account which I want to cash out and here is where the problems begin.

    1. I cannot make any purchases from the account. I talked with them via emails and they said that I am using the account from a different location other than my residence(which is true) and for my security blablabla they are blocking the payments.

    - I have tried clearing the cookies and everything,used a VPN from Philippines, still cannot make purchases or transfer the money to a different paypal account.

    2. I have a payoneer account and I cannot add that account to my Paypal to withdraw money. They said they are no longer working with Payoneer.

    How can I cashout that account? Do you know other VBA companies that I can sign-up with and have the money withdrawn to that account and from there move it to a personal bank account?

    If I add a personal bank account(that was not linked to any other paypal) will PayPal see the name on that bank account, not matching the name on the PayPal account?

    Are there any way I can cash out? (I am not buying gift cards because I cannot make purchases and because there are to much money to buy$50 gift cards)

    I appreciate and thank you in advance for all your answers!
     
  2. wowhaxor

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    Using it out of country in the first place to get u flagged wasn't smart but sounds like you put in a lot of effort to get it back instead of having it limited and withdrawing after 180 days although personally I think you will want to start a new stealth account after all that. it doesn't say you have limitations but every purchase/send money (including invoices and not that whole $6300 but even just small ones) you do won't go through and it doesn't just ask to send you a code to verify it just fails? And when you connect via your phillipenes Vpn what all have you tried to do to access your money? Add a bank and withdraw or send the balance to another account or what?
     
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  3. JasonGraham

    JasonGraham Regular Member

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    Have you tried creating another paypal account and send your money to the new account?
     
  4. DanielRep

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    I have been using the account prior to limitation from my country(Romania) without any issues. I was able to make purchases, pay invoices all that.After the limitation, I could no longer make purchases, pay invoices anything. Not even small amounts. I have tried to purchase something for $80 and it didn't work.

    I also tried the same thing using a vpn with Philippines IP address(prior to doing this,I used CCleaner to delete everything Paypal has on my computer, changed the original IP address directly from the router) , and still didn't work.

    I also talked with PayPal customer support and told them I was on vacation and I need to access my money...nothing.

    Linked with this PayPal account is a Filipino debit card, which the girl I purchased the account from used it to verify the account and withdraw(probably). I was asking if I can add a bank account(my personal bank account) to this account and withdraw.

    I also tried sending the balance to a different PayPal account using both the invoice option and using the "send money to friends and family" and still didn't work.
     
  5. JasonGraham

    JasonGraham Regular Member

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    Have you tried sending only 50$ at a time?
     
  6. DanielRep

    DanielRep Newbie

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    Yes, I tried buying from an online store here in Romania a coffee machine for $60 and it worked... PS: I don't really need a coffee machine... then I trying buying something for $80 and didn't work.

    I didn't try sending just $50 to another Paypal account...I thought that it might work, but do I send like $50 every day to that account? I think it will get suspended. I tried sending $200, and it didn't work. I keep getting a message "we cannot send you transfer right now"
     
  7. JasonGraham

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    Have you tried sending multiple times 40-60$ in the same day?
     
  8. DanielRep

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    No, I didn't try that. Since they are blocking payments for $80, I thought that sending more small amounts will lead to the same result. Plus I don't want to block or limit my friends PayPal account for $60 bucks.

    Are there any withdrawal services here that can cash out my account? reputable ones, I mean...
     
  9. InnovativeSEO

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    Problem 1: I talked with them via emails
    Problem 2: I have tried clearing the cookies and everything,used a VPN from Philippines,
    Problem 3: Probably will strike you out....so QUIT trying things when you don't know how they work.

    I'm not trying to sound mean bro but that's a lot of cash and you don't want a battle that you can't win if push comes to shove. They have a very strange security model they operate with, so you need to have your shit together before you do anything about contacting them or even looking at that cash. I've had my share of frustrations with them in years past, but I have also learned how they work and how to work with them. You say you've provided a business license, but you bought the account from a girl that never used it...I just want to be clear on a few things: Is it a Business account? Premier acount? Personal account?
    When you provided this "business license" was the business registered in a country that PayPal services?
    The key here is knowing what you have to work with and what you have already told them or provided them by mail.
    You do not have to use a bank account that matches the name, however you also do not want to use a virtual card/bank etc because you are already under suspicion and at the end of the day, the account is not legit according to their TOS.
    Virtual banking of any kind isn't a bad thing, but these methods are regular avenues for organized crime to move money, so I suggest that you do NOT go that route. The answer is this: The way to resolve this is to call them and let them hear your voice. I can tell you from experience and with helping others here, that how you handle it makes ALL the difference in the world. They can't/won't punish you for being (out of country) however emailing them only adds to the suspicion that you could be a fraud.
    The answer is a phone call, and that call can't be made until you have a plan and you've not already sabotaged yourself with something you sent in. If you want assistance I would consider it, but only after we spoke and I feel your legit and know the whole story with the account setup. Good luck buddy, I hate to think of you losing that much cash.
     
  10. DanielRep

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    Thank you for your comprehensive reply!

    Let me break it down for you:

    1.I know that I should talk with them via email but I need to ask my sister or a girl-friend to talk with them,since I cannot act like a girl with a strong voice.

    2. The account is a business account.Fully verified and with all limits lifted. The limits were lifted prior to me purchasing it.

    3. After the account got limited, PayPal requested me to send (copy of cc and ID, copy of business license, provide proof or shipping for some transactions, credit card statement). Besides credit card statement, I have provided all the requested documents. Copy of cc and ID was from the girl I purchased the account from(I had those docs requested when I bought the account). Business license,was for my company registered in Panama and which I use for my online business. As for shipping proof,I have provided the actual tracking numbers for the transactions in question.

    As PayPal told me after sending those documents, the account is perfectly legit and I can continue doing business like I previously did. Accepting payments and all that.

    I can speak with my sister and have her talk with PayPal but what should I tell them? Keep the story that I am on vacation? call from a VoIP number? call from a Romanian phone number?

    We can speak privately if you wish to help me,I can answer any questions you might have to see that I didn't steal the account or did some shady business and trying to cashout.

    Thank you again for your advice.
     
  11. InnovativeSEO

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    "I know that I should talk with them via email" NO you don't. You need to have her do it, or someone that's competent enough and well prepared to handle whatever they ask you/her. It sounds as if you have definitely met their requirements so that is definitely good. The reason I stress the importance in speaking with them directly is because no matter how big paypal is, there still is the "human factor" and that can make all the difference in the world. I've seen it many times with them on my own accounts in the past and you need every advantage you can get. if they have verified you full now, then you stand a good chance of getting your funds, but thinking you can trick them. As far as what to say to them, the truth goes a very long way, but I also wouldn't risk $6k so that call needs to be handled well. I'm not a good female either =) so that means it's somewhat out of your hands. The question now is your sister capable of speaking with them and playing the part when it comes to whatever they may ask?
     
  12. ibl0x

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    Just a pro tip.
    Have you tried adding a bank account other than payoneer? like a real one in which you use?
    Log in to the paypal as the same as you have used it for months now and just add working bank account to it then just remove the account once you have withdrawn as that's a business account they wouldn't mind really as long as you have all the documents they won't look into it. :) Had a business account with different users using it and it's fine in my side. why don't you try that first and quit worrying.
     
  13. DanielRep

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    No,I didn't try adding another bank account to PayPal. I was thinking about adding it, but I don't know if PayPal checks the name to match on both the bank account and the PayPal account.

    Also, withdrawing to a bank is not an option in my country. I would need a US bank account,which was Payoneer.

    So,now if I add a personal card to the account, would they check to see if the name match?

    Thanks
     
  14. archon10

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    Wait you tried to "fix" the probably by using a VPN in the Philippines? You will get flagged immediately when switch an IP from one country to another. You can't say you're on vacation when you flip IPs within a matter of minutes. It doesn't matter about cookies...you look very suspicious especially if you did it more than once.

    When this happened to me, I had to supply docs to prove my location. It took like a week or something like that.
     
  15. stealthexpert

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    paypal does not see names on bank accounts
     
  16. ogiriga

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    I have a way to withdraw money from paypal
     
  17. pressrelease

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    I am not able to get one thing, ug you provided your legit business info and all invoice details, what was issu in getting real account. Or that was fake one.