Whywork's team is a SCAM

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scriptkiddies said:
Yeaah still no any answer at all

& he's connected

this is typical wat i get when i try to speak to him




for be honest i doubt any update will be released ......

one thing is the payment was made to

Alfredo Monarrez (via BearyManaLow)

wich i dont know who it is but i was send PM to whywork asking him if its the good link for payment & he answer yes

Someone can provide more destail about him & his society & name etc ..please
i need to give more info about him to paypal

thanks
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I want to clarify what he meant by "Alfredo Monarrez (via BearyManaLow)."

Yes, I used to work for Whywork and I did help him sell his products at one point. They were good quality and indeed did make me and others money from mailing. However, I was not aware that he would stop giving updates to his customers and ignore them. I stopped working for him a month or so before people started calling him a scam and his forum went to hell.

Anyways, as for the payment made to Alfredo, Whywork would always give me a premade Paypal payment link to give to the customers. I no longer have the payment link, but if any of you have AIM logs then check there...though he has probably removed the links.
 
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here is the link i was paying with

Code: 
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7939882

Of course is dead ....

Do you know this Alfredo ?
 
For the record I would also like to make it abundantly clear that I have absolutely no association with Whywork or his products at all and haven't used his software for a long time. Yes, I was appointed as a moderator on his forum a few months when it started to grow in size because I posted a lot but that's it. When the forum totally fell apart and more superior software came onto the market I simply moved on to other things and haven't used GEAS or spoken to Whywork in a couple of months at least.

As Barry mentioned, you will remember the time when GEAS was one of the hottest tools on the market, very well-supported and making people serious money (I personally banked over 40k with GEAS before it died on us). Unfortunately I wasn't to know how things would turn out and I am absolutely appalled that people have had money taken from them in this manner with false promises and being sold a tool that clearly doesn't work. If what people are saying here is true then he deserves everything coming to him and I will assist in any way that I can.
 
What is GEAS? What kind of software is that? What is so good about it that you guys are willing to pay $1k for it?

I mean I am a programmer and I am selecting a new project to make. But my hand is tight to my current biz.

As you see I too make gmails (though it's all sold out). So I make a program to create gmail. However, I still can't figure out how to properly commercialize it. Before i set that as free program and charge for captcha. But then people don't use the program big time and I wasted my time for customer service explaining how to use it. I can also sell it and charge big. However, one day google will make the method fail and I don't know what happen if all my customers ask for refund. I definitely don't want to get banned by BHW I got other big biz.

But seriously. How much one of those program worth? What's the market share? I mean, I can ask my programmer (or my self), to set that to work with iprental, for example, and who knows.

I've heard trupal programmer makes like what, 1 million. I can do that, if I have time.

And for those who speak against Beary and say that only the programmer should sell. Man... I am a programmer so this is my point of view. If I create my next program, I definitely won't sell it my self. Maybe I'll ask Beary. Damned. I should concentrate on programming. Not customer service. My next service, product, or program, will not be sold by me.

In fact, I already have customer services floating around on my BST. I wonder if they can give itrade on behalf of me. So customers give itrade to me, my customer service give them itrade. Got to try that. Handling customers drain life out of me. I mean, I love them. But I only got 25 hours a day. Ups, I think I am over optimistic already.
 
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Lets not forget about all of those times the competition was banned from BHW. Anyone so much as mentioning a competing product was banned. Other developers attempting to submit a bst the appropriate way was denied.

This is what made the GEAS product line popular. Sure you could make a lot of money using those products but they were sub-par to some of the competition and cost as much as 3 times more.
 
Well whywork promised me a paypal refund since last friday.
This week he promised me a Western Union payment since Monday.

Seems like no one is going to be getting any $$$ back. I'm not too sure what he could of done with 30 grand. He was stating he was making 3k daily personally with his cpa rev and 1000+ sales within his company. Not sure if I believe anything anymore
 
There was a IM course conducted by the whywork team for $700/mth .. was it down too ?
It was high cost but was promised superd method that you can earn back many more /mth.. was it any good or scam at the end ?
 
fizzlemahoe said:
There should be a new rule stating only people who are the developer of the program or the owner of the program to be able to sell their products. Bearymania wasn't the owner or developer of the GEAS lite and yet he was able to sell it in the B/S/T? I don't understand why that was allow. To me it seem like a scheme when you think about. Why did bearymania resell the GEAS lite and not whywork. Whywork could of easily add that to his thread or pay again for another thread to sell it but yet Bearymania was selling it and not whywork. Why is that? Even though whywork gave him his approve why didn't he do it himself he could of easily done that himself. And cash in all the profit instead giving a cut. I know bearymania is getting a cut or something out of it. You wouldn't pay the fee just to sell someone else product and take all the responsible and hassle just to help someone out for free.

All I know if that all the people who used to be in the whywork team are not part of the team anymore. I remember AIMing them and asking them for help they be like we are not part of whywork but wouldn't state their reason or so. These people need to speak up on why they aren't part of the team no more.

Anyway MOD I think you should consider a new rule for the B/S/T and only let people who are the owner/developer of the software/script/code to sell their product. You shouldn't allow any reseller to sell the product if they are not the owner/developer of the software/script/code. I don't care even if they have the rights to sell it you shouldn't allow them to. If the reseller going to sell the product why wouldn't the owner himself do it and cut off the middle man. Anyway I hope I didn't offend anyone or anything. But this is just how I see things.
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I was selling the program for Whywork because he allowed me to, thus I forwarded this information to the mods at the time and they confirmed it. As for Smelly-Cash not being able to get it to work, that was not my problem, but his because others were able to get it working, including myself. There were plenty of vouchers for the program while I was selling it and I still believe that at that time, I was making bank from it mailing Craigslist. I'm sure others can vouch for me about this as well.

Gmail still does indeed work and I would think GEAS Lite would as well, if Whywork did not disable all of you guys. I did not know that he would stop updating his products and not respond to you guys, I only helped him sell a product that I knew for a fact worked and gave me money, so I vouched for it 110% while I had it listed under my name. As for the any of them working now, I don't know. I cannot say any further on his status as I've stopped talking to him before this thread even surfaced.

Edit: To answer the question above, yes, there was a course and many people were starting to ask for refunds for that as well because he stopped updating it. I don't have much info on it because it was closed down.
 
cwongwh said:
There was a IM course conducted by the whywork team for $700/mth .. was it down too ?
It was high cost but was promised superd method that you can earn back many more /mth.. was it any good or scam at the end ?
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for the time being, it's seems like it is a scam for now. him and omnipotentq ran that course and it's too bad they never updated it.

whywork doesn't answer his aim messages nor does he really care about any of his customers IMO.

i really don't know what to think anymore.

i hope the mods can clear this up soon.
 
yeaa i still alway try to talk to AIM but i got never answer

even he answer i dont believe any update will be released ....

sound scam isnt it ?

that weird.....

Please help me to get his info

i cant let him go with my money like this

How did you manage to talk to him emthree ?
 
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BearyManaLow said:
I want to clarify what he meant by "Alfredo Monarrez (via BearyManaLow)."

Yes, I used to work for Whywork and I did help him sell his products at one point. They were good quality and indeed did make me and others money from mailing. However, I was not aware that he would stop giving updates to his customers and ignore them. I stopped working for him a month or so before people started calling him a scam and his forum went to hell.

Anyways, as for the payment made to Alfredo, Whywork would always give me a premade Paypal payment link to give to the customers. I no longer have the payment link, but if any of you have AIM logs then check there...though he has probably removed the links.
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Just to clarify, Alfredo is Alphius (whywork's family) who's paypal was used to deal with the transactions. I spoke to Alphius and he trying to manage all the refunds on his own and is no longer affiliated with Whywork.
 
Just to clarify, Alfredo is Alphius (whywork's family) who's paypal was used to deal with the transactions. I spoke to Alphius and he trying to manage all the refunds on his own and is no longer affiliated with Whywork.
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Thanks Electric mate

that sound good if it can be done

if Alphius dont want to be involved into this scam

that what he should do .......

wait for news !
 
whywork is banned

but i send PM to Harro for get more info but i dont have any anwser since 5 days
 
look ive been trying to stay away from this huge mess, becuase honestly ive always have tried to been a respected person, whywork and i have huge diffrences on how things were delt with, and that was the reason why i seperated myself from him completly when i started hearing things that i didnt like, and actions that werent to my satisfaction.,i ended up disabing any access to him via paypal, so my name wouldnt be involved, and any further transactions wouldn't be made.. I cant be resonsible for any thing he does, and anything from that point on, as i have my own life to live and i am my own person, dealing with him has been a huge mistake in my life, and i know burning briges is never good.. Anyone thats been trying to get a refund who paid via paypal with my account , ive tried my best to give them a refund, i dont make that much money and just know alot of this has came out of my pocket to make things right for those who delt with him using my name .. i wish u guys the best..
 
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alphius said:
look ive been trying to stay away from this huge mess, becuase honestly ive always have tried to been a respected person, whywork and i have huge diffrences on how things were delt with, and that was the reason why i seperated myself from him completly when i started hearing things that i didnt like, and actions that werent to my satisfaction.,i ended up disabing any access to him via paypal, so my name wouldnt be involved, and any further transactions wouldn't be made.. I cant be resonsible for any thing he does, and anything from that point on, as i have my own life to live and i am my own person, dealing with him has been a huge mistake in my life, and i know burning briges is never good.. Anyone thats been trying to get a refund who paid via paypal with my account , ive tried my best to give them a refund, i dont make that much money and just know alot of this has came out of my pocket to make things right for those who delt with him using my name .. i wish u guys the best..
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One thing Alphius ,
you are from the same family isnt it ?

i pay to your paypal ID so its mean you are 100% in business
its to easy to say you not working with him anymore

i ask you to manage to get my money back with whywork

if no refund..

you have to give all info about whywork name adress etc...

like this we can take disposition with lawyer right now !!

i might think fiew members of whywork TEAM was involved to keep us away to think we gonna be scammed......
 
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lol u are his worthless brother. is your whole family such degenerates taht you have to scam people to put food ont he table?

alphius said:
look ive been trying to stay away from this huge mess, becuase honestly ive always have tried to been a respected person, whywork and i have huge diffrences on how things were delt with, and that was the reason why i seperated myself from him completly when i started hearing things that i didnt like, and actions that werent to my satisfaction.,i ended up disabing any access to him via paypal, so my name wouldnt be involved, and any further transactions wouldn't be made.. I cant be resonsible for any thing he does, and anything from that point on, as i have my own life to live and i am my own person, dealing with him has been a huge mistake in my life, and i know burning briges is never good.. Anyone thats been trying to get a refund who paid via paypal with my account , ive tried my best to give them a refund, i dont make that much money and just know alot of this has came out of my pocket to make things right for those who delt with him using my name .. i wish u guys the best..
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I think the only real solution to this problem is obvious? Get his real life information and screw with him until your money is back or his life is ruined? Am I wrong or is that the "blackhat" way of getting your money back?
 
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