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Why your 301's don't work like they should - Tips inside...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by thebigweb, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. thebigweb

    thebigweb Regular Member

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    Hey guys,

    So I thought I would share my knowledge about 301 redirects and why you are not having the success you should be. I have given this information out in replies to other related posts but thought I would create a separate post so it's all in one place. It's short and to the point but you will seriously benefit from it if you follow the advice.

    Firstly, 301 redirects are STILL a powerful method IF done correctly. Most people simply buy a new domain or an aged domain and redirect it straight away. STOP! Don't do this because the effectiveness is dramatically reduced. This is what you need to do: -

    1) Buy an aged domain with good DA / PA & backlink history.
    2) Get a simple 1 page site or small multi-page site installed on the domain in the SAME niche you are targeting on your money site (unique quality content)
    3) Host the domain on a separate IP with different name servers to your money site
    4) Create links to the domain from PBN's, Contextual GSA and any other method you normally use
    5) Send social signals (optional but I found this helps)
    6) Make sure all the content / pages are indexed
    7) Leave it to sit for a few months (minimum 1 month recommended)
    8) At this point 301 the domain to your money site
    9) Continue sending links to the 301 redirected domain

    Why do this? Well, it's simple. When you buy an aged domain with a backlink history Google will see that the site has a history in a completely different niche to your money site. Changing the site with content from the same niche, sending relative backlinks and giving time for Google to 'accept' new niche makes everything much more effective.

    Patience is the key here. Nice and steady wins the race.

    Hope that helps...
     
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  2. Chiefjop

    Chiefjop Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Simply just redirect niche related domains :)

    ps; great post though. I think a lot of people make the mistake of random 301's and than will be disappointed with the result
     
  3. thebigweb

    thebigweb Regular Member

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    Yep if you can get them.
     
  4. 710fla

    710fla Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Do you stop paying for hosting once you 301 the expired domain?

    I've been reading into 301's, thanks for the tips!
     
  5. asap1

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    I've never had problems with 301's.

    I just put up a 1k word article, most of the time its spun and i put my keywords I want to target throughout the article.

    Let that sit for 1 week then 301. After 1-2 weeks you will see the results.

    If the domain is not niche related I buy some web 2.0s for it targeting my niche keywords.
     
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  6. thebigweb

    thebigweb Regular Member

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    I normally keep the hosting as I use it for other domains & projects.
     
  7. BUYSMM

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    Is the risk high doing it for a money site?
     
  8. thebigweb

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    I've had no problems doing this and the great thing is, if things do go wrong and your site does get some form of penalty in the future you can always disable the 301.
     
  9. clevelandslim

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    Too much of 301 redirection harm your site. Anyway useful tips
     
  10. accelerator_dd

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    Nicely put. I dont do all that much when doing 301s - mostly just get it reinexed with some content first, then 301.
     
  11. Unknown Overlord

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    Good tip Paddy :)

    Love your software by the way!
     
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  12. webinsight

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    Great tips! Enjoyed it. Thaaanks!
     
  13. thebigweb

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    All depends how you do it ;)
     
  14. childlikecrook545

    childlikecrook545 Registered Member

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    Thanks will definitely try this method. I love experimenting with 301's.
     
  15. PaperToy

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    Doesn't that kind of ruin the whole point of fast rankings with 301's? Why not just spend the time building links to your money sites instead of focusing on a "potential" 301 help?
     
  16. thebigweb

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    You can still fast rank if you spend time preparing the 301's before you start your new 'project'. When I start a new project (big project) I have all the stages mapped out and purchasing and preparing my 301's is part of this. This is before I even start back linking to my money site. Once you have prepared your 301's and your money site is ready, at that time you can do the redirects.

    You could start this process now for a niche that you know that you will target at some point. Then you are all set and ready for some awesome fast ranking ;)
     
  17. thebigweb

    thebigweb Regular Member

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    ...if you have a niche that you want to target in the future but not yet you can start preparing your domains now so you are ready to 301 them for fast ranking :)
     
  18. Lauriat

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    '301' is kind of a mystery, sometimes it works and sometimes not, when i came to conclusion that it only works with niche related domains i purchased 20k domain from exactly same niche and guess what it didn't work out this time.
     
  19. Jaytizel

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    Thanks dude. Nice share
     
  20. longrun

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    How many 301s would you guys send to a site...safely?