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Why SEO is harder [Google+]

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by LikeaSir, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. LikeaSir

    LikeaSir Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It is my opinion that Google+ was created by Google to slowly get rid of the value of traditional back links and attribute real people to the "voting up" of websites and items that affect rankings in the SERPS. This is a long way off, but it's my opinion that it's the end goal, attribution of "votes" or "link juice" to real validated people in the Google systems.

    It's harder to game a Google+ profile (Gmail, Google Account, WMT, Your Android Device, etc. all interlinked) and in addition to that you get little taddle tales selling out to Google and other so called "Guru's" moaning their heads off like this shameless example below:

    https://plus.google.com/u/1/108541235642523883716/posts/hbve9vr31RX

    It is/was probably a network, and yes that's what happens when you do "cutting edge" SEO to test out Google, but why do these people feel the need to shout from the rooftops about it and complain about it?! SEO is, in it's nature "Black Hat" and cutting edge, regular "White Hat" SEO's are the ones like the douche bag in the given link example, and the ones that bend over and open wide to every single one of Google and Matt Cutt's demands. They forget Google is a money machine out to profit from people, and we're here to play the game with them, not treat them like the police of the internet. Google do not own the internet!

    I feel people selling out/reporting these link profiles and link farms are worse than if they were doing negative SEO, they're not helping or contributing anything apart from helping Google, this doesn't help the users of Google! They're moaning and shutting off clever ideas rather than seeing the idea, see if it's working and perform a clever twist on it. They'd rather bitch, moan and complain about "spam" and then tell Google, the very company that is screwing them over in the first place.

    Most SEOs that now claim to be pure and "White Hat" are 90% of the time complete douche bags that cannot work their ass from their elbow when it comes SEO, what's more, this idiots profile (the guy telling people to report profiles) reads:

    "Discovering new ways to reach connected customers" - Clearly this is a lie. His tag line should read:

    "Bending over, not trying anything new and bitching to Google when I find something that might be cutting edge and out ranking me"

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  2. Secret Machine

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    I am new to SEO and BHW and dont really know anything about SEO or Google......still I can say I dont think it is harder it is just evolving. If you worked in IT would you say it was "harder" everytime new technology came out or was upgraded? You would update your skill set and stay competitive or find new work. I really don't know though , apologize if this doesn't apply.
     
  3. Windmill

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    Actually... those white-hat guys can be better described as "liars"
     
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    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Was going to write a response, but you compactly said all that needs to be said.
     
  5. vander5510

    vander5510 Newbie

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    I totally agree with this. Do you use Google + yourself?
     
  6. LikeaSir

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    "Harder" was perhaps not the ideal word to use, from my point of view it's not harder, because I'll always look for a work around, I have that mind set, but moreover, harder for themselves by giving Google more ammo to release bull***t like panda and penguin.

    In addition the game plan is to try and force G+ onto people. I know links are still king and have proof this is the fact, but like I said in my original post, it is my opinion they'll phase this out over time as it's much easier to manipulate back links than a G+ profile.

    As seen in the above example you get "wanna be" SEOs and self-proclaimed "Gurus" that happily bend over and take it from Google by "telling" and "whistle blowing" on the slightest of things, just like the guy in the original example. They're unknowingly crowd sourcing Googles witch hunt for "spammers" who are basically clever guys (more intelligent than the "taddle tale") gaming the algorithm.

    This is the huge disjoint in the entire SEO game right now. They're harming themselves by disclosing everything to Google until Google gain complete control of it all, and then slap ads over everything.
     
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  7. bananapoison

    bananapoison Registered Member

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    Google + is also going to demand the use of the rel="author" tag throughout the Internet. That way each author's post might rank higher and lower depending on who wrote it. An article from an established authority will probably get a top spot over a less established person.