Google launched bard to give competition to chatgpt but it completely failed. There is no comparison between the two if we see the response. Why did bard fail so badly? Did they fail to understand needs of usee even after having so much data of user behaviour?
Why is Google bard so far behind ChatGPT?
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Is chatgpt capable of eliminating them?
Asuna Yuuki
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You can bet that they knew about ChatGPT before the public found out about it.
Moreover, Google has been working on AI for a very long time. There was no "Google has been sleeping on his laurels".
ChatGpt will be gone, after Google implements "Magi".
Not even close. ChatGPT doesn't have the budget. Not even with Microsoft as a backup.
If Google makes Magi public and it runs on Apple and Samsung, it's game over.
blackengine
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Google is the king
hennessy
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Overall, Google has some of the most advanced Ai capabilities in the world. Google hasn't doubled-down on competing with ChatGPT because it's not the future and Google knows this.
People don't want to chat with an Ai. It's clear this is just an early money-grab and resources are more important in other projects.
And no, ChatGPT can't eliminate what they rely on.
People don't want to chat with an Ai. It's clear this is just an early money-grab and resources are more important in other projects.
And no, ChatGPT can't eliminate what they rely on.
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Where do you think ChatGPT gets information from? Google can never be eliminated instead they will adapt and enhance their capabilities.
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Google, unlike OpenAI, has many greater objectives other than AI. Search Engine, Docs Bundle, Gmail, Adsense/Adwords, etc.
But Google is now integrating their AI in more and more services they provide each day, so it is only matter of time until you will be using Google's AI more than OpenAI's without even knowing it.
ChatGPT is a great tool and I believe will give Google hell of a fight, but Google will not fall behind imho.
But Google is now integrating their AI in more and more services they provide each day, so it is only matter of time until you will be using Google's AI more than OpenAI's without even knowing it.
ChatGPT is a great tool and I believe will give Google hell of a fight, but Google will not fall behind imho.
Are you following the AI space and that's your assessment from the numbers, or is this your personal opinion?
Bard got an update recently. It's not GPT level yet, but I'm sure Google is slowly releasing updates. For some tasks it can actually outperform GPT.
I just learned they provide API access for bard as well, so it'll be interesting how this all plays out.
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But AI is the place where there are most users right now at the moment. If they fail this aspect, they will loose lot of share from the market.
alexio
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it's only the beggining, google has right to think before deploying massively.
It's better to provide a good and relevant product than a deceptive product.
And most of users are far to be involved. 99% of people know that chatgpt exists, but are not using.yet.
i typed in Donald Trump and Bard didnt answer anything to it!!
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As far as I know, It's a totally different technology
It's something they failed to create for many years and rushed as they saw their own ass on the line.
If they are gonna get dethroned, might as well milked every last bit of it.
It's something they failed to create for many years and rushed as they saw their own ass on the line.
If they are gonna get dethroned, might as well milked every last bit of it.
Elvlin
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Gone? nope no way, even with one ai leading, there will always be competitor, excep someone make breaktrough ai that basicly overlap every single ai in every form, than sell it for everyone to acess with price that make sense. also it's impossible for this corporate ai to be uncensored
Example see search engine market? google dominate but no it still have competitor, it have majority market yes, but doesnt remove the other.
Asuna Yuuki
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Maybe "gone" was the wrong wording, what I meant is that if Magi develops the way I think it will, ChatGPT will very likely be used significantly less.
For example:
MySpace < Facebook
Yahoo/Bing and others < Google
Elvlin
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agree, not to mention it wll be usable from gmail/googledoc etc, the convenience it bring will probably make people use it less.
except the ai capability is very bad. but based on result so far, it's not that bad
hennessy
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Both. Honestly, I wouldn't even call these Ai. Nonetheless:
Google's upcoming generative results is a small taste of Google putting their resources into something more important than Bard.
The future of Ai will be engrained into most of our daily actions; we won't even know it's there, and that's how it should be. We'll look back at how silly prompting was in 5 years.
There's a large percentage of users that prompt bullet points to get a long-form piece of writing, then users on the receiving end feeding that piece of writing into ChatGPT to get bullet points before reading. Complete redundancy. Human-to-human communication is moving to short concise snippets ("prompts" if you will) of info. Just watch how kids talk/text these days, the boom of short videos, etc.
A lot of people use these tools for writing/automating content, and that's exciting, but that's been happening for nearly 20 years and the private models are leagues ahead. Much of the content you've read from top publishers over the last 10 years was assisted and/or partially generated by some set of models.
However...
We're going to see a huge flip. Long-form (blogs, etc) is on the way out, and we're about to see rapid developments in how we discover, consume, and communicate.
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They fear cannibalizing their own business.
Search ads makes like 65% of Google's revenue. If they make Bard as capable as chatGPT in conversational ability and give it access to their index and knowledge graph, Bard will be far better than search.
And it's hard to monetise on that model. Not only would it kill search's revenue, it would also be hard to monetise since rich native ads in chat is very dificult to make ux wise unlike serp results where most people can't differentiate between ads and organic serps.
Plus, it's expensive to run these LLMs. One reason Bard sucks compared to chatGPT is because it's likely a far smaller model.
Makes sense because Google makes some parts of a cent in profit per serp and the less expensive it is to run something like Bard, the less it eats into that profit.
Unlike OpenAI which is bleeding investor capital to give free access to chatGPT.
It's a completely different business model.