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Why don't people act on their ideas?

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  1. GSanders12

    GSanders12 Registered Member

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    What are the prime reasons that people never execute on what they say they'll do? Do you think there prime motivation is only money and also the fact that they think the process will be long and complicated and too much effort to put in?

    We hear a lot of ideas but really these are all worthless without that person acting upon it, Steve Jobs even said that everyone has ideas but you have to act and pick up the phone.

    What do you think would unmotivated someone to act upon their idea?
     
  2. proxygo

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    they cant be bothered - lack motivation - they have no faith -
     
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    I find the biggest problem is time. You have 5 great ideas, you cannot act on all of them, so you need to chose the one you think is best.

    It also takes time and effort beyond just the original action. I can code a good script in about 3 days of work, but then you need to be able to promote it
     
  4. USProxyKing

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    It is the movie scene where the woman who is running away from rapist/burglar/murderer/<insert_scary situation> and it's the thing that causes her to claw at the door and not grab the door handle and turn, but what does that require? This thing that has overtaken the woman in the movie has taken hold of us as well, but instead of being swift so that we might be alerted, it is more of a divide and conquer.. confusion and mind warping. War of attrition.

    Just like placing a frog in a pot of boiling water; it immediately see's it's predicament and attempts an escape. But slowly, ever so slowly.. over the years even; the temperature rises. The frog is thinks it is damaged. It had a much better chance of escaping if it was alerted to it. The frog had better dig deep, and find a reason to escape, or he's fucked.

    Another word for faith is Courage. I like courage because it makes more sense to me than faith. I like to break words down and derive my own special meaning.

    Courage breaks down for me as: Current Age. Right the fuck now.. It's extremely hard to live right now. But just like when I was wanting to become good at some game.. like Counter-Strike or Starcraft, you realize as you progress that in order to beat someone else you have to be faster than them... You have to slow down time. In essence you must be able to do more thinking (consciously/planning and subconsciously/reacting) in the same measure of time than your opponent. That is if you want to win. It's like athletes who hearts have adapted and slowed down to the amount of WILLPOWER they've committed themselves to. If you commit yourself to something, with clear intentions and focus and remind yourself of your goal, and take active steps in achieving it, it will happen.

    Courage was the word of choice in the movie Braveheart. Courage represents standing up for what you believe in. Courage has 1 tier and 1 tier only. Just like jesus saying that there was not any good, only god that is good. It is because you're either courageous at a certain time or not. The past is history.. Learn from it and move on.

    Right now as I write this I ask myself why do we treat situations differently that rapidly develop over seconds/minutes and perhaps some hours.. But when it comes to things that drag on, when years instead of seconds/minutes/hours pass.. What do we do? Wait a sec, analyze the two.. One we were alerted to the problem and immediately dealt with it.. the other we put off.. Hmm..

    I'll share something that I found to be the most crucial when I was in drug court. It was that when a thought/idea to get high (such as, man some roxy's would really help in <insert_task/situation>) and if you DO NOT IMMEDIATELY deal with the situation, it becomes 10x or even 100x or 1000x harder. Now, I am for the most part done with drug court.. But the times when I did relapse was because I did not immediately deal with the situation. I had a plan, just like having to overtake the extreme fear you feel while watching one of those movies where the chick is clawing at the door.. Just like "ok, running to door.. make_sure_you_grab_it.. How does this door work? Ok, TURN handle and PULL..." I had a planned argument with my brain when the idea was planted.. It was a prepared and everytime that I employed it on myself (mind you, with a very strong emotion pulling for me).. I won. The times I let the thought in and did not deal with it immediately.. I went and used.

    You can either stand up for yourself and inspire those around you to do the same, or you can lay down to fear.

    Seriously.. Fear is like the spell a Warlock casts in World of Warcraft. Are you going to wait for the timer to end or are you going to press the buttons that override/counter it?

    Cunning. Baffling. Powerful. - It is our mind and our thoughts being played back to us so many times we can't even really hear it anymore.

    Unsteady. Unable to think clearly. The only thing to do is to break free. Face your enemy and he will flee. That is what cowards do. Cowards run.

    Perhaps you've been running you're entire life. But if you are reading this, that means you still have time. Time to Stop running and tell our enemy, that we may have ran from obligations and issues and work in the past, but that was then, and this is now. Then go strategize. See the situation from a perspective outside of yourself, yet having full access to your thoughts, desires.. everything. Make plain the situation and advise yourself what needs to be done.

    Do or do not - there is no try. Yoda said it best. Do not judge others (because there is part of us that is perfect, and it can be a very hard judge on ourselves..) Realize that others are most likely going through what you go through, and they might not even know it.

    Self-Awareness is what is said to seperate us from the animals. Use it.



    Tell fear it can go fuck itself. Tell it to it's face. Fuck you fear. I ain't scared of nothin.
     
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    It can sometimes be traced back to a mental disorder such as anxiety, or executive functioning problems. <-- Google it :)
     
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    It's incredibly difficult to overcome inertia, but as soon as you get the ball rolling...
     
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    Some people are just dreamers. They had rather keep their dream alive than have it crushed by failure.
     
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    USProxyKing was that an explanation or a 3 part trilogy
    im waiting for part 2
     
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    Sometimes it easier to get someone else to implement your idea, than you yourself are able to do at that point in time.

    I would probably have an easier time training someone to giving seminars on writing & marketing: why their connection is important, than I am able to give the seminar itself.

    Not because I would not be good with a presentation, but maybe we are better teachers, than doers. Of course, this is not always true and I am sure many people are quite the opposite. But when we teach someone how to do something, sometimes we actually learn more about what we are doing.

    Not really trying to defend anyone or make a point, just an experience.
     
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    Time/money are the biggest obstacles for motivated people. I've got a backlog of around 8 projects which I plan to work on, but haven't got round to yet.

    For unmotivated people, fear, laziness I guess..
     
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    I think people are alluding to it, but FOCUS seems to be the largest wet towel as far as implementing things. If something doesn't go right, we move on. One BH said that if we "focused like a laser" on one thing until it made us lots of money, we'd be much much beter off. But shiny new objects (free and paid) appear on every screen in this forum. :) Just sayin'
     
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    In my position right now, it's more of being overwhelmed and wanting to do 100 things at once. Not prioritizing or getting things planned out or blueprinted.
     
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    For a some it's not believing in themselves - lack of motivation, courage and waiting for others to pick you up!

    And for a few it's time and money, like some mentioned before!
     
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    People are slackers. A set plan, goals, and meeting deadlines is crucial.
     
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    I believe that in reality, we are all the same. The problem we face is that we -ALL- either consciously or subconsciously think what we are doing is bullshit. I am not speaking about BHW or making money online. I am talking about the need for money & work. Whether we acknowledge it or not, it doesn't make sense and seems contrary to our higher 'calling' for our being.


    I was a christian at one point, then turned atheist, but in reality i just stopped giving a shit (agnostic).. That worked for a year or so but because I was a recovering oxycontin addict whenever I was pulled to one extreme and was let down (such as going to back to church) - it would set off a chain of events, usually leading me to use. I found that I was in no shape to go after god through the same ways as people at the church, simply because I completely disagreed with the culture/collective understanding of who jesus was and what exacty he was about.


    I learned that being true to my self and being OK with my present lack of understanding was more important for growth than anything else. I think it is more important to be yourself instead of taking on what others thought.


    That set off a chain of events. Life got exciting for a change. Simple things, like words that I felt people (including me) used on a daily basis, made absolutely no sense. Because I was interested in spiritual stuff, I did spend time on a lot of words.. I went to greek and latin to see the root breakdowns. I noticed immediately that there might be an issue with language (i am a conspiracy theorist, aka paranoid freak) and I felt that for the most people the language that we learn is very shallow, aka not indepth. Language is used to communicate our thoughts/emotions to other people. If all we can do to define the words we use is remember at best the dictionary description of it, and maybe a few parallel words, then does that constitute a real understanding? Sometimes answering questions is best approached from different angles.. such as "would we want someone to teach us something that they themselves only had a limited understanding of?" The answer should be no. We really do want and NEED the absolute best. If not then perhaps we cannot give ourselves fully to the instruction because we do see faults. Everyone does desire greatness.


    When I started researching god, I started at the root.. I remember in watching the passion of the christ in theatres when it came out. I swear if Mel Gibson goes to hell then I want to go with him, because I believe he revealed a lot to people just through three movies: Braveheart, Passion of the Christ & Apocalypto. If you have any objections to Jesus I truly believe that it is with the not with the man but the people who say they follow him - so please just bear with me. Anyway, in the movie the passion of the christ there was a scene that was left out. It was the scene where the guys were coming to arrest jesus, and when they asked if he was jesus he said I AM. In the bible they all fell back (think of a small AoE shockwave with perhaps a 10ft radius). In the movie that did not happen. Anyway, I've kinda never let that go and started with the I AM stuff..


    The oldest hebrew name for God is said to be lost - along with it's meaning. But lets just focus on what we do know. When god starts working with moses, god uses I AM That I AM. Just like we are. He just IS. He has no beginning nor ending that he knows of. Just like us. For all we know we've always existed, right?


    Another one, and for me this is the version of god that I absolutely love... and it's found in ancient greek. Kurios.. I love Kurios because to me it means curiosity. Which means to examine, to find out.. to turn over.. to care. Curiosity needs no motivation, it is already motivating. Whatever we are curious in we usually keep going until we are no longer curious.


    I don't care what anyone says. Most people join the church because they are afraid that if they don't say the magic words they will goto hell, and burn for all eternity. Honestly, for what I know I never asked to be born, and what I do know that this world was MAJORLY FUCKED UP before I ever entered the scene, and that most of "my problems" came from my father through osmosis and without my permission, so please - if you're a 'christian' and you tell me that free will is a choice of either A or B. Save it. Fuck the box that you aren't even aware of. You sheeple.


    Your jesus was a fucking rebel. He practically told people they were god and that no matter what - you stand up for what you believe is right. That's the problem. People are afraid of death. This life is just a brief blip in time. What we do here DOES echo in eternity.


    So stand up. Grab your balls and then headbutt a wall. Because You are the only thing you've ever known.


    Look into Esoteric vs Exoteric. That's what jesus was all about. Change starts from within. Believe you are God.


    Join the Kuriosity Kult today and get 10 free virgins! Limited Special! Act Now!!
     
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    people now days are lazy and impatient, they don't want to work they want to be the boss but they don't want to work to be the boss. They say hey I have an idea but I got no clue on how to execute it and I don't want to execute it. I guess I can sell it from millions and I'm done. When they see how real life actually works they tend to opt for the easy route.
     
  19. USProxyKing

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    In reality it is easier to finish than to deal with the consequences (internal and external).

    People who embrace screwing people over are just deceiving themselves and in reality screwing themselves over. They cheat others and themselves.
     
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    Easy: FEAR.

    Fear of the unknown. Inaction. Over planning. Over half of lifes issues are not even true. It's made up.
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