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Why Article Uniqueness% Is Useless for Mass Submission...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jascoken, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. jascoken

    jascoken Senior Member

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    I get asked this question quite a lot, and so I thought I'd do a quick post to try and explain it to those that are new to spinning, and the math involved...

    Essentially, the %unique number quoted by most software is a variable function; it's worked out differently by different software developers, and there doesn't seem to be any particular standard.

    The main problem is that it doesn't incorporate any kind of permutation calculation. i.e. it doesn't tell you how MANY unique versions are available.

    If you take this spun block:

    {Some text|Some more text|Some different text|Some even more different text}.

    ...Then most spinners will give you a 100% unique rating, because 100% of it is spun! But clearly, this 100% spun 'article' would be useless for mass submission, because there are only 4 permutations (different end results).

    It's the same with paragraph spinning... Take this example of 2 para's, each with 4 spins:

    {Para 1|Para 2|Para 3|Para 4}.

    {Para 5|Para 6|Para 7|Para 8}.


    We have 100% uniqueness at article level, and 100% uniqueness at para level, but we only have 4 permutations at para level, and 4x4 = 16 permutations at article level. Still useless for mass submission!

    Even if you have 6 paragraphs and have 4 versions of each, you only have 4^6 permutations (4x4x4x4x4x4) = 4,096 article permutations. BUT you still only have 4 permutations at paragraph level.

    I always calculate permutations at paragraph level, because it provides a more sensible idea of 'longevity' of a spun construct. It's pointless telling yourself you've got 4096 variations in the 2nd example above, when a large percentage of these are only differing by a small amount.

    It's why standard 25-50% autospins at word-level yield fairly low numbers of truly unique articles.

    However...

    If you created 3 extra rewrites of each sentence, and used 3 sentences per paragraph, and then braces/spintax spin each sentence into 5 chunks/parts/phrases with 4 total spins each...

    ...then you have nearly 69 Billion permutations of that paragraph alone (4^5 x 4 = 4096: 4096^3 = 68.7B.)

    If you have 10 paragraphs, and only use 5 of them in a mixed/random order, then this number gets gigantic. To all intents and purposes, you'll be able to use it almost indefinitely. I have constructs like this that I built 5 years ago that are still going strong after a full 1-2k blast use EVERY WEEK.

    It's why spinning has to take on a new face with today's SEO. I implemented this technology about 5 years ago and coined the phrase '3D Hyper Spinning' - because you're working in 3 dimensions; multiple paragraph substitution, sentence rewriting, and spintax inside sentences. I implemented this in our 'UberCubez' module ( http://www.ubertoolz.com/UberCubezCreation.html ) as many of you on BHW will know, as a lot of our members come from here.

    Relying on a simple uniqueness% is very dangerous for mass submission, and could be why many members get lower indexing than they expect; simply because they haven't understood the math behind spinning. Full permutation & combination math gets extraordinarily complicated to explain, so I'm not going to get into detail on calculating the actual numbers. But hopefully this example will open the door to a basic understanding for some members.
     
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  2. nickt

    nickt Junior Member

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    I always spin my articles paragraph (3x), sentence (3x) and word level to achieve that crazy permutation. It gets very tedious because it takes me about 4-6 hours to do one 500 words article alone.

    What does ubercubez do really? Is it a tool? Does it help me to automate my spinning process? Tell me more. :)

    EDIT: I just went through the site and videos, looks really awesome with multiple functionalities.
     
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  3. Kitsune

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    To check how unique your spins are you can use SpinnerChief's batch compare feature. I recently created a bunch of mixed and spun articles and the highest similarity i got was 20%. That tool compares each article to every other article so i think that i got some good results.
     
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    i just read ur complete post(Ctrl+C) and also the tool page , very informative

    i have using similar strategy as your tool but with my own conventions and systems which really ease up the rewriting process and you get high uniqueness .one need to understand the flow of the content , make a plan,structure it and then write

    thanks for sharing
     
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    I can't sum up UberCubez in a few words; it's an enormously powerful hyper-spinning construct creator. Check out the demo at:

    http://www.ubertoolz.com/demo/UberCubez.php

    ...and the creation guidelines at:

    http://www.ubertoolz.com/UberCubezCreation.html

    Simply (!?) put, it is an extended {braces|spintax} article that has been created and laid out in a specific way. The key features are:

    1. It has multiple re-writes of each sentence, each with a different grammatical/sentence structure. You can have as many sentence re-writes as you want, but typically there should be 3-6 versions.
    2. Each sentence re-write is individually {nested {braces-spun|spun}} at word/phrase level. Typically, you don't really need nested spinning here.
    3. It has many more paragraphs than it needs, (typically double to triple the number,) each of which are written as an isolated micro-topic - so they can be used in a different order, and remain readable.
    4. When it is actually output by our software, it only uses X paragraphs out of the entire construct, in a mixed order; with often the first, and sometimes the last paragraph locked in place.
    It basically provides a way of easily editing and maintaining hyper-spinning constructs via a simple txt file. So you can do it anywhere, and aren't reliant upon any particular editor.

    It outputs the articles as standard spintax subsets; so that you have a smaller and more portable sub-set of the full construct which can be used in any submission software: like AMR, SENuke or Zenno etc.
     
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    One thing I would like to know is how readable is the spun content that UberCubez generates compared to other spinning tools?
     
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    jascoken Senior Member

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    UberCubez doesn't create new content; it provides a framework for easy editing of large structures. So it's as readable as you write it...

    Hope that makes senses!:)

    If you check out our BST thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ing-unique-content-creation-toolset-live.html

    .. you'lll see loads of posts from members who are using it; that may help you get some different angles on it.
     
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  8. Altimit

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    That's an interesting new approach to spinning and I'll definitely take a look into it. But I think it's worth noting that article uniqueness % is not always calculated by how many words are spun. SENuke is an example of a program that will tell you the uniqueness % by comparing the article with other spin variations of itself. Something like {Hello|Hi|Hey} will not give you 100% uniqueness in SENuke. However, TBS calculates it differently (basing it on how many words are spun) and will claim it's 100% unique. So it really comes down to what program you are using to evaluate it's uniqueness.
     
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    That's true Altimit, but the key point here is that NONE of them can or do use any kind of calculation which tells you HOW MANY versions you'll get at that level of uniqueness.

    The number of permutations is far more important than the uniqueness between a couple of hundred or even thousand. This is what gives a construct it's longevity and ability to continually produce indexable content.

    The whole point of this thread is to get people thinking about more than just a uniqueness% which as I've shown tells you very little about how useful a spintax construct is. And many people rely on this number to tell them they're using something that will get them lots of unique versions.
     
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    I had several articles that were Infinity spun (and not broken) :D
    In SEnuke they had a perfect 100% uniqueness on a 16 article comparison, granted i don't use SEnuke for anything but to check article uniqueness these days ;)
     
  11. Mr. $EO

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    Uniqueness is the most overated thing since Google. I do article blast with 100% copied ezine articles. All I do is put in my links with my keywords in the article to increase the keyword density.
     
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    You sound like you're making $10k/day... can I buy your WSO?
     
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    jascoken Senior Member

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    Aah... The bitter-sweet smell of sarcasm... :)
     
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    I wish I was making 10k/day...and yea, if you want you can buy my WSO, but I don't tend to sell WSO's to fellow ballers.

    On that note. I don't do normal mass article submission, like AMR or SENUKE, that might explain why my method works well.
     
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    thanks op ive just started spinning my own articles this week perfect timing reading this thread :)
     
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    So say I construct one of these monsters, and it has 10 middle paragraphs of which I'm going to use 4 each Uber shuffle, plus a first and last paragraph that won't change.

    I then rewrite each sentence 2 times for a total of three, then synonym and phrase spin those at least twice variations where applicable. I write some twenty titles and spin those.

    How many copies can I safely post into the cyber sphere before they step on each others toes? How often should I re-shuffle the spin construct? I'm looking for a ballpark figure.

    In the past I have aimed these right at my money sites but only put out maybe 1-200 copies total for fear of killing my money sites...
     
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    I can't even get close to an estimate without the exact figures and dimensions of a construct. The math is complex! And it takes a long time to work it through, so I can't sit here working it out for everyone. Believe it or not, I've had 6 PMs all asking me to work out their permutations!

    You can get a rough idea by following my example in the 1st post through...

    average spintax variations in a sentence chunk ^ average sentence chunks/parts per sentence

    X the average number of sentence rewrites

    All THAT ^ the number of sentences in a paragraph.

    ^ means 'to the power of' so 2^4 means 2x2x2x2

    Breaking the sentence into sensible chunks/phrases and doing spins on them is an important part in getting the volume up, unless you do a lot of sentence rewrites, but you get more variation per word written (I.e. it's more efficient in terms of workload) by doing phrase spintax inside sentences.

    The paragraph substitution and reordering is much more complex because that involves different combinations, not just straight permutations of a fixed sized system.

    Just work it out at paragraph level anyway; you'll get a more 'honest' answer!
     
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  18. nick doda

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    please let me know for unique content writing and almost pay nothing!
    cheers!
     
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    great
     
  20. worldelite

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    very informative thread for those who has just started spinning own articles