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Who do the 'big players' outsource linkbuilding to?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bobrittany, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. bobrittany

    bobrittany Regular Member

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    I've been on BHW for a while now. I've bought tons of services. I've spent thousands of dollars here (probably 10s of thousands). My clients do great, and I have an awesome profit margin.

    But I notice that even a good link service, will disappear after a while. I get tired of going on the forum and reading sales images. I'm tired of sifting through the low-quality sellers vs the high quality ones. So where do the big player SEO's outsource their link building? I think I've graduated from BHW marketplace. Or is this the pinnacle of finding great SEO packages for cheap? I need consistent quality, consistent packages, etc.

    (I know some of you might reply "all the marketplace services suck!" But I've been using them for years, and I rank like crazy. You just have to know what to buy and how to use it :)

    I know that I can hire someone in house, but that would be way more expensive than what I'm paying now. I could hire someone on upwork, but I've noticed that the work always starts out great, then slowly goes down in quality the longer you work with someone.

    I've searched for white label, reseller SEO services on Google, and everything I can find is marked up like crazy. I usually figure that all those companies are just outsourcing their SEO as well.

    Any big players want to share their method?
     
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  2. Lunaaa

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    They outsource work to india. And what big players? Some don't even need to link build to rank and some can just throw some shitty links at it and it will rank
     
  3. bobrittany

    bobrittany Regular Member

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    "big players" as in people making 20k+ per month in profit using SEO...ranking clients or their own websites.
     
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    Big players don't need to use services. They have their own, or they wouldn't be big players now would they?
     
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    Reaver Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    When people ask questions like this I just smirk.

    They don't tell for a reason.

    It's "secret" for a reason.
     
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    Big players buy links everywhere. And, I am not talking about "big players" you are referring to.

    I am talking about companies with sales that go beyond $1,000.000/ month

    I sold links (directly or indirectly) to ....hmmm, should I name and shame?:)
     
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    dramaofgoogle Newbie

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    You might want to have your own dedicated team of VAs trained to do exactly what you instruct them.
     
  8. freckletone

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    I see "big players", I am talking about online magazines like Cosmo, Allure, sites with over 20,000 referring domains and companies associated with Hearts Media buying sponsored links on Yahoo, other magazines etc... I think you can buy packages where links to your articles are syndicated on other magazines but it costs thousands of dollars minimum. It's called syndicated content.

    Best Products which is owned by Hearst Media (which owns Cosmopolitan) has some shitty spam back links too.. lol

    Some of these authority sites have shitty links too but they have so much authority that it's very unlikely for them to get hit with a penalty
     
  9. bobrittany

    bobrittany Regular Member

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    not necessarily. of course i do have my own PBNs, software, content writers. But I also use BHW services all the time. And I make 45k/month.

    smirk all you want. we're a community on BHW after all. we share information. my life has completely changed because of this forum. there are lots of people out there who aren't so insecure about their success that they feel like they have to keep their "secrets" locked up tight.

    I use to use "secrets" to rank. i don't anymore.

    any real advice out there? i guess the next step is really to start networking with other 6 and 7 figure SEO's and start sharing ideas with them. I'm definitely trying to do that, I'm attending 2 conferences in the next 3 months. But thus far I've been pretty much on my own, building my business from the ground up.
     
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  10. bobrittany

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    this is what i'm thinking is probably my best option. it will be difficult to find the good ones, but once i do, i will be set.
     
  11. bobrittany

    bobrittany Regular Member

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    so you think i need to network with a more diverse group of link sellers? how is the best way to find opportunities like that?
     
  12. freckletone

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    Its easy to find out depending on what niche you are in as big playes are different depending on the niche. Just look at their backlinks in ahrefs and if you see some which look like sponsored content etc just contact the site and asks how much it costs...

    I came across a network but their minimum was $5k... lol
     
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    Noooooo you said you'd not reveal my details in public.... :(
     
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    I will, thank you very much.

    We can share all we want here but some things remain locked up tight for good reason. It's not about insecurity. It's about idiots with shady intentions running in and ruining a good thing.

    Do I share info here? Yes. All the time. But there is no way in hell I'm sharing absoltely everything I know. That's just asking for it.

     
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    Big players, companies making 100MLN+/year have a in-house team. Actually any decent "player" does. You can't bet your life on other people's services. That's just for side projects and candies.
     
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    Also a lot of them don't buy from a network but have staff doing outreach...

    network doesn't fit all. For example, if one has a scholarship they are doing outreach to colleges....

    ive seen some doing outreach to libraries, .gov sites etc and they are getting listed because they have a legitimate resource worth linking to
     
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    The op know what he is talking about

    It has become a trend here, bst shaming by those who spent $100 on a few sellers have become tremendously popular.

    You should follow @Skyrocketseo seo he knows his stuffs :p
     
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    I've always found that finding really good admins and then sticking with them for the long term is the best approach. Agreed it is so hard to find good people.
     
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    Big players have massive PBNs. And really high quality PBNs. Sites that look legit, because they actually are legit. I know one company that does seven figures, they have people run the sites like actual sites then sprinkle in their own links when needed. They also have teams of dozens of workers in Indian and Philippines. I've seen all of this first hand.
     
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    This is the easiest question to answer that I have ever seen asked. ANSWER: They don't!
     
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