Which matrix do you follow DA/PA or TF/CF

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Hey all, I have a confusion which matrix should I follow DA/PA or TF/CF? I am searching on the net but no good answer. What's your opinion? Which one should I follow and why?

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PA doesn't matter, Take DA seriously, Then Check TF/CF of Good DA sites. If all good then check RD, Or Skip all Just Check RD, Only RD matters. But if you've huge list of Site, Go with DA.
 
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SiddharthW said:
PA doesn't matter, Take DA seriously, Then Check TF/CF of Good DA sites. If all good then check RD, Or Skip all Just Check RD, Only RD matters. But you've huge list of Site, Go with DA.
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Thank you
 
Shaphat said:
DA & TF happens in the results. While check the back links too!
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what do you mean with ''check the backlinks''?

The DA/TF should not already give the picture of the quality of the backlink?
 
@Nargil's explaination of metrics from his expired domain / PBN guide is a pretty good overview. Majestic is generally way more useful than Moz, although it should be remembered that they're both third party metrics that have flaws.

Nargil said:
5. Metrics

Some people here follow metrics like a religion. Like 45 year old virgins in a cinema watching 50 Shades Darker. Is that good? Not really, no. I will be partially discussing it also in the section 8.

Let's break down the metrics and how useful they really are:

RD - Referring Domains - This is the most important of them all. Fact is, that it isn't even a metric. It's a fact. The domain has a certain amount of referring domains and there are no algorithms to determine it. The higher the RD, the stronger the domain in most cases. You should primarily focus on this

TF - Trust Flow - Trust flow is a fairly useful metric. It can be manipulated, sure, especially with the domains with low RD. Finding domain with RD2 and TF40 is not really a problem. Why? Because one link can push the domain sky high TF wise. You should always use TF in combination with RD. The higher the RD is, the more reliable TF becomes. So with domains with RD below 5, yeh... it's super unreliable.

DA/PA - Domain/page authority - Toy metrics. Direct connection between the number of backlinks and DA is so pathetic I want to cry. RD3 DA15 domain? Not a problem. All it takes is one sitewide link, so that the domain has 5000 backlinks and all of the sudden, it has high DA. What's the point of this metric? None. Should you rely on it? No.

CF - Citation Flow - This is another Majestic metric. It's fairly useless. It basically shows how spammy the links of the domain are. I haven't checked this metric in 2 years or so. Why? Because when you can check the backlinks by hand and the domain history as well, you can easily figure their spamminess out for yourself. Plus it's heavily unreliable so checking it only diminishes the selection of the domains you can work with. Also, if you see someone selling PBN links or domains and advertising "High TF and CF", then please, ignore that service. The seller apparently has no idea what he is selling and the quality of the service will be, in most cases... sad.

CF/TF Ratio - Useless for the reasons stated above.

Ahrefs Metrics - Heavily unreliable. If you really want to focus on some third party metric heavily, then focus on TF.

Cclass IP/RD Ratio - This is thing that many people here skip and they shouldn't. If you have 50 referring domains and only 10 different C class IPs, then that means that 41 of those domains are hosted on pretty much the same hosting. Is this okay? Hell no! The minimum ratio to go for is 0.6. At least that's my rule of thumb.

Another thing that I would like to mention is the amount of filters people use to "determine" the "quality" of the domain. If someone goes for TF15+ DA15+ RD15+, UR40+, niche relevant, brandable, only .com, and so on, your selection of the domains you can work with is nonexistent. So the less filters you have, the better for you.

Conclusion

Metrics serve as a primary filter and you shouldn't follow them religiously. There are domains with high metrics which look good on the paper, but in the reality, they suck. See the example in the chapter 8. Does that mean that you need to go after authority links only? No. Just always check properly what you are buying or what you have bought. Manually. Not by looking at metrics. And don't overdo it with filters either!
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https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/current-expired-domain-situation-lies-costs-metrics-spam-and-niche-relevancy.916518/
 
In my opinion... both are equally important as Moz and Majestic have laid down a standard evaluation of websites as per their own algorithm.
 
Both are good metrics. However to analyze a site efficiently you must go into its backlink profile and see some of the best backlinks one by one. Also see the ratio between referring domains and referring backlinks.
 
I would definitely check DA/PA, as well as the score (higher score would most likely mean that there may be a few hq links on the site), and then cross reference that to TF>20. A TF>20 would also mean that there are trustworthy sites linking to that domain - TF can't be manipulated, whereas DA/PA can by pumping in pure spam. Thus, a high TF would mean good trust, thus that domain generally has a few good links here and there. A high CF can also be a warning sign - this could be due to high article spam links present, thus a general 1:1 TF/CF would be good enough.
 
DA and TF will be my choice, buy links with decent value of these metrics. good luck for your results.
 
Checking both, TF and DA usually. I try go get links where both is okay
 
set23 said:
what do you mean with ''check the backlinks''?
Which means you should anlayze the links which are already built for that domain. Becoz few site contains adult and spam links.

The DA/TF should not already give the picture of the quality of the backlink?
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Sorry I didn't get your point! can you elaborate?
 
To me both are important and if they match, they could mean a good strength overall.
 
Masood said:
Both are good metrics. However to analyze a site efficiently you must go into its backlink profile and see some of the best backlinks one by one. Also see the ratio between referring domains and referring backlinks.
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can you elaborate a little bit this please?

''see some of the best backlinks one by one''.... what do ya mean?
 
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