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Which is better? 25x1 or 5x5x1 Web 2.0 Properties?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by johndoes, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. johndoes

    johndoes Junior Member

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    Hello,

    I need some help from experienced people.

    Suppose I have some time to create 25 web 2.0 pages.

    Which would be wiser?

    a) create 25 pages with links to my site


    b) create 5 pages with links to my site,

    create 5 pages for every page above with links to that page

    Some users call it link pushing but the definition I know for link pushing is slightly different so I dont know what to call it.


    Any help greatly appreciated

    Thanks
     
  2. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Build 3 directly to your site and have the balance of them pointing to those 3 with 9 to one 6 to another and 7 to the third one.

    And that is pretty much linkpushing only on a very small scale which is fine.

    If anyone knows what linkpushing is it is me.
     
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  3. johndoes

    johndoes Junior Member

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    the definition I knew was the transfer of the anchor text without using it.

    That is

    you create 1 page, put a link without anchor ( url, domain etc)

    you link to that page from several pages with exact keyword.

    that way you get the keyword targeting but avoid unnatural anchor text penalty/filter

    thanks for the tip by the way.

    So you say I'd rather create a pyramid (or whatever it is) than 25 pages?
     
  4. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Exactly and do not use the same amount of backlinks backlinking your properties all the time which is why I suggested the 9/6/7 backlinking process to your initial properties.

    Then after you get the second tier done, build some more links to them in the fashion below:

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    So the 3 pointing to our site would have 1 anchor text link for keyword we want to rank and the other 22 pointing to these 3 should have 1 link, but use related keywords and not use main keyword we want to rank for correct? But the question I have is having just 3 direct links to money with our keyword is enough to see a jump in rankings or would we habe to make several of these linkpushes to target just one keyword?
     
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    I would use a mix of main and related KWs for all the properties to make it look natural ad depending on the other backlinking, the competition and the onsite SEO, there could very well be some movement.

    Also if you make several of these I would make the size of the initial tier as well as the second/third tiers different for each one.
     
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    In my hole IM activity I never saw better results from WEB 2.0 linkwheel then from direct linking... I don`t understand why people give so much attention to this kind of linkwheels.
    My suggestion is keep it simple. 25x 1
     
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  9. Chrisss

    Chrisss Senior Member

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    +1

    When it comes down to linkpushing, BTB is the one and only one you should listen to :)

    I think this statement is very important to keep in mind.

    The better you cover your tracks, then higher is the chances that your site will maintain a strong position in the future.
     
  10. johndoes

    johndoes Junior Member

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    Did you make enough experiments?

    I dont know the results myself, but why should people bother building 2nd tier properties knowing they'll lose direct links?

     
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  11. BassTrackerBoats

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    I've been building linkpushes for over 3 years now (heck, I invented the term) and I promise you that you would be well served by following that process.

    In fact, if you want to PM me your url and KW(s), I'll build one for you using my service for free and you can see the benefits.
     
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  12. ksy213

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    This is a good read. I'm planning to purchase one of BTB's package. Will all the links stay there when I cancel the subscription?
     
  13. GagaDarsalia

    GagaDarsalia Newbie

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    I am going to try out BassTrackerBoat's "Linkpushing" way of backlinking. I'll do it myself since I can not afford purchasing any of BTB's packages now unfortunately. Hopefully I'll get the desired result. I've heard BTB is a real master of linkpushing so I'll follow his advice.
     
  14. BassTrackerBoats

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    You can certainly do it manually; it just takes work and you'll have some real good benefits from it as well.

    Different user names on all your properties, either unique or spun content (spun content is plenty fine) vary the amount of properties you have linking to other properties and only one outbound link per property.
     
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    They certainly do stay up.
     
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    Hello BTB ,

    I`ve sent you a PM about your offer if it`s still live.

    Thank you !

    EDIT : It seems not available ... I wish you will gave at least some real examples to back up your words.

    Thanks !
     
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  17. aced4life

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    25x1 for sure
     
  18. johndoes

    johndoes Junior Member

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    Does this work after panda udpates?
     
  19. johndoes

    johndoes Junior Member

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    Thinking again, I believe 5x5 or similar structures are better.
    in 25x1, you'll have 25 links coming from extremely weak pages. but with the 5x5, links will have at least some authority and referencing which may be better than 5 times more links.

    I've started building 2nd tier properties. I'll update the thread with the results.

    BTB, how long will it take to see the results?
     
  20. BassTrackerBoats

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    It is available to the OP, I should have worded things better.

    Here's some examples for you since you asked:

    albaniax

    Just an quick update of an quick & dirty link push on an old site I actually don't care that much anymore.

    Site: A couple of years.
    Keyword: Medium one term keyword

    Before: Page 2-3
    After: 6th - BEFORE DMOZ which has an PR of 6 on that page

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    bestcoder

    Greg is brilliant!

    I'm an experienced professional search engine optimizer and can see this working.... The random chaos nature of his service is incredibly strong and looks perfectly natural in Google's eyes.

    Will update with progress but I'm quietly confident!

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    bhaque

    BTW, I previously mentioned on this thread that I had a Google dance after my first LP on one of my sites.. it has since increased in traffic and I'm noticing the increase. So just wanted to leave the positive review!

    However, based on my experience... the dance will last longer depending on how often you build links.. Google doesn't want to see a bunch of links coming in all at once... and again, link variety....

    Short story, long - Great service.. totally worthit...


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    Surfer Dude

    WOW - that was fast, as well as eye opening!

    Had no idea I was getting 60-70 MORE LINKS then my account was showing. When you said your site doesn't report all the links we're actually getting, you weren't kidding - it's double and almost triple in some cases.

    Awesome - thanks!!


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    1337WuLF

    I'd like to report some good news:

    One of my sites has taken #3 for a low competition keyword in 1 month using just linkpushes and an EDU package from Big Buddy.

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    astravan1

    Been using this service for sometime now and just thought i would say am very happy with serp improvement and service response from btb has always been fast, efficient and effective.

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    greggggg

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    Great Service! I gotta tell you, I started using LP last week and I jumped up 10 spots for my secondary keyword to #3 and main keyword jumped 12 spots to #8. All after 3 blasts! To anybody on the fence, I highly recommend that they give it a try. So far its been well worth the money.

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    mrxinbollywood

    My Review:

    Just 7 days ago i have scheduled 12 link pushes for 3 keywords. my all link pushes work will be finished on 1st July 2011. Till now 2 link pushes completed and i found serp increases for 3 keywords.

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    reallife

    To provide at least a partial answer to a question that I see asked all the time --- despite a number of link pushes, my site seems to have reached a plateau. It's been in the same spot in G for its primary keyword, for more than a month.

    HOWEVER.......
    1. No other promotion of any other kind has been done, other than linkpushes.
    2. The plateau that the site has reached is #13 --- against well-established domains owned by the companies whose products I'm pushing.
    3. My domain is LESS than two months old

    The reason no other promotion has been done, is that I wanted to go gently with a brand-new domain.

    And the point of this post --- is to say that, at least in my experience, linkpushing DOES work, and works well.

    I certainly wouldn't count on it to be your *only* strategy if you're trying to rank for a keyword that has any competition. (And I'm about to start some other promotion/backlinking work in addition to more linkpushes on this domain, for that very reason.) But it's a great tool.

    (I have another domain, less than a year old, that I couldn't get above #35 for a very competitive keyword, again with very gentle backlinking and promotion. A few link pushes, and it's up to #22 so far. I'm pleased )

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    LukaB

    I purchased this long time ago, but I for some reason did not put up a review, I apologize for that.

    Well the delivery time was superb, nothing much to say, his thread has over 60 pages, it says it all, as all of the others, I am another satisfied customer, work was completed and rankings did improve, so this is a 11/10, powerful service Greg is providing.


    Thanks

    LukaB

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    swoffire

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    REVIEW: These guys rock! I have ordered the 50 push pack for a couple of months and seen good results. I needed to scale back due to a new batch of SEO clients coming in and needed some time before ordering more, but I mistakenly paid them the full amount, they issued a refund virtually instantly, and I will continue to deal with them for as long as they offer this service. Great guys, great results and highest integrity!