What's the earning potential for a 30 site PBN?

Honestly, I wouldn't use 30 sites to rank a single keyword, I would use interlinking to spread the love and build it up.
My comfort point is different from yours though, because I build sites for the long term, planning on not seeing any(or essentially pennies) for the first 24 months as I build it up. Expected plans are once the project starts ranking good, to recoup all costs of last 24months(links, content, hosting) within next 6, months, then get 6 months of profit, then it just starts building up. With a long-term plan, I don't work to a final dollar point, rather I build for an unlimited potential and base success on other factors.
I know, long nothingness answer, but I don't want to throw out as number, because that is different from how I account, but I will give an example, so this isn't just a long winded "no"
So $4,000 annually PBN x2yrs = $8,000
$ite content = $5,000 over 2yrs
Other links = $5,000 over 2yrs
Hosting, renewals, business junk = $1,000 over 2yrs
Total investment: $19,000
If after 2yrs, I was consistently making $3-4,000 I would consider it a success. I barely even measure the dollars per month BEFORE 2yrs, and simply reinvest it(which usually means I have paid more than $19k, but that is reinvesting, so I don't account for it).

Thank you, that is an excellent answer. Though this isn't a direct answer to my scenario, it's very much the kind of information I'm looking for. You know, the business side of SEO. Your long-term approach is quite fascinating, especially in a field where it's so common to hear "nothing is certain" / "what works today may not work tomorrow" etc, and it's interesting to see those numbers, even if they're hypothetical.
 
dont rent it out or you will destroy its value! sorry but without knowing niche, affiliate you use etc, its hard to even give a rough estimate.
i mean you can earn tons with 1 site and you can make no money with 100 sites. it all depends on what you are doing :)

Not planning to sell links. As I said in one post above, working with a load of impatient customers is just not my thing.

As for the scenario, I know that the answer depends on many things. That's why I stressed the word "you" several times. Forget about me and my niches etc for a moment, let's talk about you :)

If you could apply your skills and knowledge to this kind of a project, what kind of income would you be satisfied with?
 
That is a massively subjective question. I incorporate PBNs into SEO stratgies I sell to clients and that's worth 60k per year per customer on average...... If you are gonna CPA with your money site then depends on a bunch of variables let alone whether you rank.... The real question is what could I earn from ranking number 1 for X. How you get there is basically irrelevant.

Okay, thanks, that's interesting. You don't rank your own sites at all, only clients'?
 
Thank you, that is an excellent answer. Though this isn't a direct answer to my scenario, it's very much the kind of information I'm looking for. You know, the business side of SEO. Your long-term approach is quite fascinating, especially in a field where it's so common to hear "nothing is certain" / "what works today may not work tomorrow" etc, and it's interesting to see those numbers, even if they're hypothetical.
My biggest certainty is I build a site not just for SEO, but also for social, so in those 2yrs of building rank, I also build my social love.
 
I once had a Site Ranked with PBN for keywords that had about 20k searches per month. I made a profit of $1500 each month consistently(Selling products) no ad monetization
 
Best practice is fire up all your PBN to rank your site with good keyword, earn hard money
 
For sites that are on C class IPs, $0. Although if they are on A and a few B, $3,000 a month.

Do I understand you correctly that if the PBN is on some "SEO hosting", then it's worthless, but if it's hosted on unrelated IPs, then you'd expect an income of around $3,000 per month?
 
I once had a Site Ranked with PBN for keywords that had about 20k searches per month. I made a profit of $1500 each month consistently(Selling products) no ad monetization

Were you ranked #1? It was an e-commerce type of site, not an affiliate site, right?
 
Do I understand you correctly that if the PBN is on some "SEO hosting", then it's worthless, but if it's hosted on unrelated IPs, then you'd expect an income of around $3,000 per month?
I'm saying domains on C class IPs are useless and he probably won't get a lot of money.

But then again I, too, say that all permanent links are scams, so believe what you will.
 
I'm saying domains on C class IPs are useless and he probably won't get a lot of money.


Can you please elaborate on this.. i dont seem to understand..

So if you get completely different hosting for each domain with different IPs..then what would it be ? A B or C Class ?
Sorry cant understand
 
Can you please elaborate on this.. i dont seem to understand..

So if you get completely different hosting for each domain with different IPs..then what would it be ? A B or C Class ?
Sorry cant understand

I assume that what @turdface means is that if you use some sort of "C-Class SEO hosting" service, you'll get IPs like:

65.124.92.45
65.124.73.110
65.124.22.212
65.124.206.31
etc

And if you have 20 sites whose IPs all start with the same two numbers linking to your moneysite, it'll be too obvious for Google and they'll devalue/deindex/mark your sites for manual review.

Alternatively, he may mean that if your network is on the same C-Class, such as:

65.124.92.45
65.124.92.124
65.124.92.85
65.124.92.12
etc

...well then it's even worse.

If you get hosting for each site from a different provider, you should get a natural distribution of IPs. Most will have different A classes, so you have nothing to worry about, at least in terms of IP classes.
 
I assume that what @turdface means is that if you use some sort of "C-Class SEO hosting" service, you'll get IPs like:

65.124.92.45
65.124.73.110
65.124.22.212
65.124.206.31
etc

And if you have 20 sites whose IPs all start with the same two numbers linking to your moneysite, it'll be too obvious for Google and they'll devalue/deindex/mark your sites for manual review.

Alternatively, he may mean that if your network is on the same C-Class, such as:

65.124.92.45
65.124.92.124
65.124.92.85
65.124.92.12
etc

...well then it's even worse.

If you get hosting for each site from a different provider, you should get a natural distribution of IPs. Most will have different A classes, so you have nothing to worry about, at least in terms of IP classes.
Thanks mate.. appreciate the answer
 
If you use PBN as real PBN, not for link sale, nor Adsense etc., you can not really get any direct revenue from it. And how would you calculate your money site revenue share that comes because of PBN?
 
If you use PBN as real PBN, not for link sale, nor Adsense etc., you can not really get any direct revenue from it. And how would you calculate your money site revenue share that comes because of PBN?

Well, yes, I mean the revenue that comes from the money site that's ranked using the PBN, not direct revenue from the PBN.

Given that, why would it be a problem to calculate revenue? I mean, you build a moneysite, you rank it using the PBN, it starts bringing in some money. That is the revenue I meant. If you have a "relatively small moneysite" (as stated in the OP), the revenue without any backlink power would probably be close to zero anyway.
 
Well, yes, I mean the revenue that comes from the money site that's ranked using the PBN, not direct revenue from the PBN.

Given that, why would it be a problem to calculate revenue? I mean, you build a moneysite, you rank it using the PBN, it starts bringing in some money. That is the revenue I meant. If you have a "relatively small moneysite" (as stated in the OP), the revenue without any backlink power would probably be close to zero anyway.


An important question is:
What would be the cost of these domains : 30 Domains with 30+ RD would likely cost a decent amount ?
 
Given that, why would it be a problem to calculate revenue? I mean, you build a moneysite, you rank it using the PBN, it starts bringing in some money. That is the revenue I meant.
But you don't use only this PBN, do you? You have also other links, and the links that the site already has, and social promotion, etc etc....
 
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