What Tool Do You Use For Bing

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I recently noticed that my bing traffic is increasing gradually just as Google traffic is doing the opposite, which got me wondering what tool to use to optimize for keywords on bing and check my competitors as well as other things.

I tried both ahrefs and semrush but they're all focused on Google and data you see on Google, I can't find Bing competing domains of any site. There's not even an option to set Bing as the default search engine when analyzing. Maybe I've been doing the whole thing wrong, which brings me to the question in the topic: What tool you all use for Bing optimization?

I remember a member in the past once talked about killing it on Bing @meddie, can't find the thread neither can I locate the member.

Any tip or suggestion would be appreciated.
 
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Our log tells me one thing, bing will only create a lot of 404
 
Google generates very few 404 errors, while bing causes many 404 errors. For crawlers, bing is stupid
 
Not a ton of tools for bing, lots of it will need to be done manually. (It's kind of dumb because bing/yahoo make up 30% of us searches, that's a big slice of pie)

Bing likes emd keywords, social shares, and images. It takes eons to get backlinks crawled and counted, and generally, they don't weigh nearly as much as google. Traffic and keyword wise, use google tools then subtract 70% monthly traffic to get a bing accurate number. I've used serpobot to successfully track my competitor's keywords, but most of it was manual.

As for actually finding the competitors to begin with, It might come down to manual labor.
 
leechesBleechin said:
Not a ton of tools for bing, lots of it will need to be done manually. (It's kind of dumb because bing/yahoo make up 30% of us searches, that's a big slice of pie)

Bing likes emd keywords, social shares, and images. It takes eons to get backlinks crawled and counted, and generally, they don't weigh nearly as much as google. Traffic and keyword wise, use google tools then subtract 70% monthly traffic to get a bing accurate number. I've used serpobot to successfully track my competitor's keywords, but most of it was manual.

As for actually finding the competitors to begin with, It might come down to manual labor.
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Thanks for your input.

That's so much work to be done even though you'd 'half blind' for the most part.

Some of the keywords picking up traffic on my site from bing are not even showing up on my search consoles, makes me think there are more I could easily rank for.
 
HenryObi said:
Thanks for your input.

That's so much work to be done even though you'd 'half blind' for the most part.

Some of the keywords picking up traffic on my site from bing are not even showing up on my search consoles, makes me think there are more I could easily rank for.
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Bings a gold mine if you put the work in for sure. Like i said, no context user intent crap, its pure emd. Emd url bullet, emd keywords in the article, emd related and adjacent keywords etc etc. It can be a lot of work but really it just boils down to treating each serp result as it's own separate thing.

Take a look at the first 5 positions and you should know instantly if you can outrank them, as the authority doesn't matter nearly as much on bing. Content length should always be more than the top 3 for the most part, emds etc.
 
leechesBleechin said:
Bing likes emd keywords
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I concur. One of my websites is an EMD (very similar to learn oil painting) and it's ranking on bing's 1st page for.... well, "learn oil painting" even though it's nowhere in google. I get 100s of impression per month (very few clicks, though, like 2-3 a month or so) and it can only be from bing since my website has no other internet presence. So yeah, bing and EMD are a match made in heaven... but I guess that keyword competition must also be decently low.... I guess...
 
tazarbm said:
I concur. One of my websites is an EMD (very similar to learn oil painting) and it's ranking on bing's 1st page for.... well, "learn oil painting" even though it's nowhere in google. I get 100s of impression per month (very few clicks, though, like 2-3 a month or so) and it can only be from bing since my website has no other internet presence. So yeah, bing and EMD are a match made in heaven... but I guess that keyword competition must also be decently low.... I guess...
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Thank you for your input, apparently EMD is the way to go. It'd make sense if some builds a tool specifically for Bing, there's a market for it. It appears to me that many people aren't optimizing for it because it's 'too much work'. You can't 'steal' keywords, you don't even know what to steal and how to do it.
 
HenryObi said:
Thank you for your input, apparently EMD is the way to go. It'd make sense if some builds a tool specifically for Bing, there's a market for it. It appears to me that many people aren't optimizing for it because it's 'too much work'. You can't 'steal' keywords, you don't even know what to steal and how to do it.
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It's pride and ignorance. People still think bing search traffic sucks, but I'm ok with letting them believe that, Just more for us.

Inb4 google rabid fanbois come rushing in to dispute xD
 
from what im seeing , google is more into customer behavior than backlinks (+ reviews and snippets etc) bing is like 10 years behind , still about backlinks but the traffic is lower and useless (unless if you are looking for no tech savy traffic) because the average guys will usually download chrome and firefox soon they have their windows setup
 
HenryObi said:
Thank you for your input, apparently EMD is the way to go. It'd make sense if some builds a tool specifically for Bing, there's a market for it. It appears to me that many people aren't optimizing for it because it's 'too much work'. You can't 'steal' keywords, you don't even know what to steal and how to do it.
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um, it's not too much work. I actually did absolutely nothing SEO-wise to rank in bing. Probably the EMD, good content (not great, just good) and the few spammy backlinks I have are enough to rank my site
 
speedy5044 said:
lower and useless (unless if you are looking for no tech savy traffic) because the average guys will usually download chrome and firefox soon they have their windows setup
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Some stats from one of my bing sites
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tazarbm said:
um, it's not too much work. I actually did absolutely nothing SEO-wise to rank in bing. Probably the EMD, good content (not great, just good) and the few spammy backlinks I have are enough to rank my site
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Right now the few traffic am getting, I did no work for Bing. I'll explore bing further to see where it leads me to
 
HenryObi said:
I recently noticed that my bing traffic is increasing gradually just as Google traffic is doing the opposite, which got me wondering what tool to use to optimize for keywords on bing and check my competitors as well as other things.

I tried both ahrefs and semrush but they're all focused on Google and data you see on Google, I can't find Bing competing domains of any site. There's not even an option to set Bing as the default search engine when analyzing. Maybe I've been doing the whole thing wrong, which brings me to the question in the topic: What tool you all use for Bing optimization?

I remember a member in the past once talked about killing it on Bing @meddie, can't find the thread neither can I locate the member.

Any tip or suggestion would be appreciated.
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I use organic SEO bots on Bing as it seems like they don't really care that they are used. I have been using one for about 6 months, the interesting thing that I've learned when ranking for Bing is that it also someone indirectly ranks for Yahoo.

What I mean is the organic seo bots operate on Bing for specific keywords, but after a few weeks I check the rankings for the same keywords on Yahoo they also improve at the same rate as Bing, even though the bots don't run for Yahoo lol

I did some research and it seems like Yahoo uses the Bing SERP as a signal and pretty much copies Bing ranks with the exception that Yahoo prioritizes their own platforms.

Thought I would share that with you, the organic seo bots really have helped my site with ecom sales and helped reduce how much I spend on ppc.
 
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