What the hell is this COVID about?

In Croatia the worst situation right now during this period of virus, every day more and more infected

Matheus Moreira said:

Its funny cuz where i live they have been closed for a long time and now everything is reopening again... just deal with it mate.

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Just deal with losing your life's work? How about you deal with the virus? How about your stay in your basement while I go to work and how about you don't ask me or the government for handouts to do it with.

I've heard that some people who have "died from corona" where just people that had died from something else and they included them as a statistic of corona deaths though.

I think its a global power grab by the elites. Big tech like amazon, google, apple, the unspeakable shadow controllers behind every president of nations etc

maybe the death of retail and middle class

ONE THING to be careful of is that when it calms down people will say "oh its not a big deal see it was all fake" then they will release WAVE 2 and say " SEE? because of these "conspiracy theorist" we are now in this boat because they didnt wear a mask"

Like be careful i can't confirm is this cv-19 is truely deadly or not just be careful

foghorn said:

Just deal with losing your life's work? How about you deal with the virus? How about your stay in your basement while I go to work and how about you don't ask me or the government for handouts to do it with.

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U mad bruh

Matheus Moreira said:

U mad bruh

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You a pansy brah? Too afraid to go outside brah? Stay in your basement like some old about to die Biden.

CDC came out with report on new infections in July. 70% of newly infected wore masks ALWAYS, 15% nearly always. There has been exactly ONE RCT done on the ability of cloth masks to prevent the spread of a virus (flu). The CONTROL group got infected LESS than those that wore the cloth masks. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577

bartosimpsonio said:

This discussion is so tiring.

It's been months. The results in places that denied the virus are catastrophic.

Look to New Zealand and how they dealt with this virus. They saved lives.

Stop denying it. It's real.

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Sweden didn't lock down, and now their deaths are nil. Spain locked down hard, and now they aren't looking so good. We can't keep the world on lockdown, and most masks don't help and may actually make things worse.

The virus is real for sure. Negationists are very unclever people.
Governements, all around the world, take right or bad decisions on how to try to constrain it....but 100% of responsability is not up to governments but up to people who act with no brain! Wear a mask and keep ditance is not to hard to understand!
People don't respect simple rules...government could act to save you if you do every stupid thing not to protect yourself own!
Virus is not cunning...people could be clever but they choose not to be like that!

ExperimentalSEO said:

The positive rate is increasing in Europe, not just the amount of testing.

UK for example

Week	% that are positive
2020-W34​	0.598437890642311​
2020-W35​	0.639169792855978​
2020-W36​	0.862309329670105​
2020-W37​	1.38961092216988​
2020-W38​	1.39157572854106​
2020-W39​	2.18333286583827​
2020-W40​	2.80932625446605​
2020-W41​	5.81956599134839​

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/covid-19-testing

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But doesn't positive rate increase DUE to testing?

If less being tested there is less infected if you off pure numbers... THIS is the flaw in reporting. It's the same as the UK flaw of testing per 100k people if they can only test I think at one point 40k-80k people at a time how can it be 100 people in 100,000 infected. More so when they are reporting DAILY on infection rates...

Maths don't lie and I'm no Stephen Hawkins.

Look I'm not saying the virus isn't real. IT is. But people need to fucking wake up at some point.

Look at this for one example in Wales we are in a lockdown now again (Sigh) now the first time around supermarkets could sell whatever and they said that was no fair for small businesses. So this time around supermarkets can only sell "essential items"

Here is a photo (there are more on twitter)



Now this is great as you can say well if you can't go out and buy a book then you got more chance of staying at HOME but if that's the fucking case why hasn't Wales banned everyone from using Amazon who pay SOOOO much to UK taxes which would go towards helping this virus right now..

Nothing make sense yeah you can argue home deliveries stop me going out. But rather than trying to help and save them little businesses all you are doing is driving the sales someplace else.

NOW that to one side.

Let's look at it another way.

Food, Liquid, Alcohol is essential . But bedding isn't...

So if you have older people or you shit the bed at night you just have suck it up and live in that because THE GOVERNMENT class that as being non essential. BUT drinking booze is? OR you can't even go out and buy new clothes? Remember this lock down is for 2 weeks 1 week everyone off 2nd week all primary kids and year 7&8 kids are back in school if they fall and rip trousers you can't go to the shop to buy them.. So send your kid to school in just his/her underwear.

Oh you can't buy a book to pass the time in lock down, watch TV that's where we can make you scared about more lockdowns and infection rates where we can't even report that correctly or tell you what age groups are infected the most.

I'm half cut now. so sorry for the rant.

But people need to wake the fuck up... I don't get why they just didn't tell supermarkets you can only buy bread and water. That's where all this going, once they know how far they can push us and roll over and accept it. You REALLY think life is going to go back to normal?

This is all going down a very dark path.

I'm no fucking tin foil hat nutter id rather just go through life with an open mind and without the side blinkers on.

The VIRUS IS REAL. The reaction to is is what people should be scared of.

At the end of the day governments are just people I don't think they can hide stuff. BUT what I do honestly think if the government tell you do something you should be doing the fucking opposite as it's never in YOUR interest.

Positive rate is the number of people that tested positive among those that were tested. It's independent of the number of actual tests.

Only God knows when it will end..

I just hope normal life returns back beginning next year

It's all about our immune system. It's not ready to fight covid.

Willyfish said:

The problem is not the virus, a virus is not good or bad it is a virus and his only goal is to survive, the real problem is people.

This covid crisis should have ended 6 months ago if measures from the governments would have been taken faster and better.

Everyone should have been in forced quarantine for 1 month with food delivery and army control, everybody entering a country submitted to a forced 14 days quarantine. Too bad ONLY for people who go from one country to another for work but businesses would have close 1 month instead of 9 f*****g long months and this shit should be behind us for a long time.

Now in Europe cases are back again and the first lockdown was an absolute waste of time and energy for everybody, a TOTAL disrespect for restaurant owners who closed and separated families who suffer...

Strict measures are the only way to do things, even if we cut the liberty of people I am sure nobody wants to continue to wait in queue and wear that awful mask for another 6 months.

People are unable to respect the measures and are even denying the existence of the virus, so the only way to make them respect this is to force them to do it... Some people will disagree but I only see facts that this stupid virus less deadly than a serious disease and that can be exterminated only by washing hands and not putting your fingers in your mouth and taking a shower is killing all our "modern" society... Come on we are weak as fuck and everybody acts under terror but things are a lot simpler than they seem, nothing changed in 6 months, we are on a forum that understands that you must adapt or die!

I saw countries refusing to adapt and if the crisis subsist today it's because of an unwillingness to change...

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I agree

I remember a city did that in the 1920's

Imagine 6 months ago we did that.

How many jobs or business could of been saved?

How man lives would have been saved

This is about the second time everything has been reopen. The case numbers shot up

So I am guessing everything going to close again

I remember I paid for my membership to a gym that day it got shut down.

Few months later it open, shut down again

Now it is open, when will it get shut down.

Getting tired starting and stopping.

Now some nfl teams are allowing some fans in the stadium

coeuno said:

The virus is real for sure. Negationists are very unclever people.
Governements, all around the world, take right or bad decisions on how to try to constrain it....but 100% of responsability is not up to governments but up to people who act with no brain! Wear a mask and keep ditance is not to hard to understand!
People don't respect simple rules...government could act to save you if you do every stupid thing not to protect yourself own!
Virus is not cunning...people could be clever but they choose not to be like that!

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Can you explain us, why are you so sure? Are you a doctor? Did you see it on a microscope? Or did you just hear it in radio, T. V. and internet and that makes you smarter than those dumb ppl who are usually questioning themselves?no offense, im just curious

tubeboost said:

It's all about our immune system. It's not ready to fight covid.

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So if it's not ready, why we are still alive?
Why 99% are in good condition?
Why mostly people 70+ deads?

In my country (same as someone wrote before) there are two types of Covid death:
1. Death with comorbidities AND covid
2. Death directly on covid


Maybe 90% (?) Die as group 1.

On point 1 (even recently it was loud, because an important person said it), people usually die of their diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure and other such diseases, but as they get covid (even without symptoms) they are put in the covid column.
And the spiral of fear is driven by numbers.

kvvni said:

So if it's not ready, why we are still alive?
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And the spiral of fear is driven by numbers.

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Our fears help us to survive. It's our primary instinct.

Its weekend already!! Another thread on covid.
Just do whatever you like. Arguing on an internet marketing forum wont change the things. Also wear mask.

Dhaval750 said:

Its weekend already!! Another thread on covid.
Just do whatever you like. Arguing on an internet marketing forum wont change the things. Also wear mask.

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I am done. I am done
Looks like a weekend post. The forum is for discussing, so keep your lazy ass at home and let people live their live