I'm beginning to suspect this as well.
What is Panda after?
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I'm beginning to suspect this as well.
tylerdale80
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- Nov 28, 2008
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I have one site which survive all the panda update until the latest one. Traffic drop to more than half. I drop from position 2 to position 9 for my main keywords, while other keywords dropped 1 or 2 positions. Now ebay is occupying the top spot. I also saw that ebay is now in position 1 for most of the keyword I checked. I wonder if google is now giving more authority to ebay and ecommerce sites.
Really? They have the search engine data, Chrome data, toolbars data, etc. etc.
experta0809
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- Aug 26, 2010
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wtf.. I was at #2 and now after 5 days I am #25
tylerdale80
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- Nov 28, 2008
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Even without google analytic, they can find out bounce rate from their search engine. Google cookied every search users. Let say someone do a keyword search and click on your site listing on google. When he finds that the site is junk, he will certainly go back to google and click on another site. Google will be able to calculate the bounce rate of your site through this interaction.
LBrown
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Even if they did track bounce rate, BOUNCE RATE MAKES NO SENSE AS A MEASURE OF QUALITY!
If I google "when is Easter 2012" I am going to bounce as a satisfied searcher if you tell me.
If I google "when does elenin align closest to earth" I will bounce a satisfied user if you tell me.
If I google "best cranberry muffic recipe" I will bounce a satisfied user. I don't give a damn about your blueberry muffic recipe. I have cranberries to use up damnit, not blueberries. I will not click around your site. I'm going to make muffins now.
There are millions of search terms in which you should expect the user to bounce. There are millions of search terms where Google expects the reader to bounce. It just doesn't make any sense for it to be a universal search engine metric.
Agreed. Looking at a few niches here, it seems to be the case.
One thing is certain. Even if Panda is wrong on same levels, we need to create better websites.
Unique content is not the best content out there. If you give the searcher the same thing as everyone out there, Google will soon realize (even if you have unique content - rewritten from somewhere) its users don't need you to rank, so it will penalize you.
Unique content is not the best content out there. If you give the searcher the same thing as everyone out there, Google will soon realize (even if you have unique content - rewritten from somewhere) its users don't need you to rank, so it will penalize you.
Don't forget - "no monetization" (affiliate, adsense, etc.)
Don't forget - "no monetization" (affiliate, adsense, etc.)
LMAO. It's like they think people just spend hours putting up websites for FREE. The day IM'ers run not-for-profit sites is the day the Internet becomes irrelevant.
I echo what you say here. In one niche I operate I'm my own biggest affiliate so I don't use AFF codes and I had zero negative affect from this. Some sites actually gained some better rankings. I really think affiliate links got hammered here, cloaked or uncloaked.
VaLeRyA
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I have unique content on my sites
I have many backlinks with authority and high pr home link
more than 5 years in the market
. gov. edu backlinks - pr4-pr8
daily update
little bounce
established
1. My site takes 5 years. Completely lost its position. Poor indexing, indexes wrong url. mydomain.com/index.h?? and mydomain.com/otherpage. ???
2. My site has 3 years, won position in some key words, lost in the most important.
B) Sites with not unique content gained position on mine and my competitors.
C) Tables with meaningless keywords are #1 and #2 spot
wait and wait
those who earned some money, we should expect to invest, are new rules of the game.
But let's get back to winning!
I have many backlinks with authority and high pr home link
more than 5 years in the market
. gov. edu backlinks - pr4-pr8
daily update
little bounce
established
1. My site takes 5 years. Completely lost its position. Poor indexing, indexes wrong url. mydomain.com/index.h?? and mydomain.com/otherpage. ???
2. My site has 3 years, won position in some key words, lost in the most important.
B) Sites with not unique content gained position on mine and my competitors.
C) Tables with meaningless keywords are #1 and #2 spot
wait and wait
those who earned some money, we should expect to invest, are new rules of the game.
But let's get back to winning!
popbradley
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This exactly. I am not going to search a site for information on something like " are bananas good for you" and find that information then search around for more info on other crap I wasn't even thinking about. IF google is using bounce rate as a factor that is a total joke. I have found some really good sites that answered my question fully so what did I do? I leave it satisfied with my answer. People saying bounce rate is a factor should throw that out the window. If anything if I was searching for something and that page didn't have info on it so im searching other pages of that site I would be more unsatisfied with that rather than if they would of just gave me the info right off the bat.
mojamalatajna
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- Aug 18, 2011
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I used unique content and high pr links and my ranks went down 4 days ago. But the same thing happened a month ago and after 7 days i got back up
tylerdale80
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- Nov 28, 2008
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Is there something very wrong with this update? I saw a site that is in number 1 with just no followed comments backlinks. Did google forgot to on the comments backlink filter? I am seeing quite a few sites getting top positions with just comments backlinks in this update.
MandLoys
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- Apr 18, 2011
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EXACTLY what I'm seeing. I was like
maybe we should fire up ScrapeBox again? I really hope this is a temporary situation that will be resolved soon...Seems to be back to normal here after I took out all the clickbank affiliate links... they were nofollow and cloaked, but still... but I have 1 site with lots of affiliate links, not much content, about 6 months old, and it has risen to a level where it's getting the same traffic as my 5 year old site with lots of content.