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Adsense micro niche sites with EMD domain = epic win
I am right with that?
I am right with that?
What is Panda after?
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I have a few of those with like 10 pages of unique content and diverse backlinks, but still got the hit. So it is not a win at all. I checked on other sites of other people with same setup and they got hit too.
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I use the same backlink strategy for my clients site and I see no change in their rankings which are for more competitive 2 word phrases, but for my sites which are low comp and targeting 3-4 word keywords they get hit. So if it was the backlink strategy then client's site would be affected as well. So why did my sites get hit and all of them too at the same time?
ytterium
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Very enlightening read. The one that stood out and caught my attention is having a post with >2000 word count! If truly this will be the way to go, people under low budget or poor writers will be affected!
PS: I see you are from BC, greeting from SK...huskies here!
Cheers,
ytterium
ytterium
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There could be a lot of possible reasons such as panda update favored your competitors in terms of better content (remember panda focuses on quality sites for users), could also be the update is not complete yet and you might see changes in few days, also your client might be using other SEO service to supplement what you do for him, etc.
My advise is don't worry about the loss of rank and focus on how to get back up there by increasing the qualities of your contents.
Cheers,
ytterium
As far as my client goes I know for a fact he is not doing any other SEO since I introduced him to it.
As with my sites it seems all the big retailers have taken up spots on the frontpage again like amazon, wallmart, nextag, ebay, etc. It's not other competitors per se, but these sites just got pushed up while mine and others with unique content and more backlinks got pushed down. So I guess I will wait it out and see what happens. I just hope this is just a temporary thing and they revert back.
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ytterium
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I hope so too as those type of sites are easy to outrank. I hope their aim is not to favor the consumer products searches to them. In general, there should be forums, review blog/sites, etc that might offer valuable information on product review sites and it will be foolish for google to not consider them.
Cross your fingers and hope its just temporary.
Cheers,
ytterium
It seems my sites have taken positions that they were 2 months ago before I started my linking campaign. Everything was going positive and sites moved up nicely up to yesterday then when I checked early this morning everything had shifted. For a moment when I did see my sites in the top 3 I was worried they were deindexed which would have been a much bigger issue. But they all seem to have reverted back to almost the same exact spots before I did the new backlinks.
ytterium
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Well, could also be your backlinks have been devalued but not your client's for some reason.
Cheers,
ytterium
ytterium
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What I don't get is why my local sites don't get hit and it is always the adsense sites that get affected. I have local niche sites targeting keywords "dentist city" and these sites show no effect even with same backlink strategy. It is always these sites that are product based or consumer driven that gets targeted.
ytterium
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It's a case of less vs more competitors for the top spot for both local and the product keywords, respectively.
Cheers,
ytterium
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I have an EMD with 20M+ searches per month that has been registered since 1994 and I have been all over the place... page 1 then page 15 then page 10 and right now page 26 wtf?! Seems the more SEO work I do (white or black) to get better rank only seems to hurt... I am at a loss right now and have decided to just chill for a couple weeks and see what happens...
Google is love hate relationship
Cheers Mates!
Google is love hate relationship
Cheers Mates!
I understand that, but there is no way that sites that are ranking now above mine are mire optimized or have more backlinks. I mean a drop of 1-2 spots is fine , but when it affects all my sites and drops are like 7-10 spots at a time it shows there are other factors at play than just unique content, backlinks, and on page optimization.
ytterium
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I have an EMD with 20M+ searches per month that has been registered since 1994 and I have been all over the place... page 1 then page 15 then page 10 and right now page 26 wtf?! Seems the more SEO work I do (white or black) to get better rank only seems to hurt... I am at a loss right now and have decided to just chill for a couple weeks and see what happens...
Google is love hate relationship
Cheers Mates!
I hear you! Dude 20M+ searches a month is a killer!
How is your backlink velocity? How often do you add new unique content?
Cheers,
ytterium
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I have only really started working on the site for the last 6 months so backlinks are only at about 15k and my pr is at a whopping 2 LOL...
I update the content based on happenings in the industry so prob. once every couple of weeks or so.
I have been good at design... but SEO not so much that is why I have come here to "outsource" my SEO. I am trying to see what/who will work best then just have a monthly contract with someone for years to come
Cheers!
This is what I am seeing for my main site. All 100% unique content that I consider quality content. Bounce rate is good and visitors are viewing a lot of pages with each visit. I don't think I am being penalized but maybe they are devaluing links I have built over the last 6 years. For my main keywords there are only major brands on the first page. I am the only informational site that is NOT SELLING... I have one adsense block and about 6 EPN listings on each product page. Hopefully the update is not complete and I move back to the top two positions where I have been for 6 years.
FYI **I would also like to add that you would probably consider all of my link building to be white hat. We are talking about Squidoo, HubPages, directories, commenting, a limited amount of forum signatures, and some article submissions. The site is linked to naturally in blogs,forums and yahoo answers, ehow...etc...**
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ytterium
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I have only really started working on the site for the last 6 months so backlinks are only at about 15k and my pr is at a whopping 2 LOL...
I update the content based on happenings in the industry so prob. once every couple of weeks or so.
I have been good at design... but SEO not so much that is why I have come here to "outsource" my SEO. I am trying to see what/who will work best then just have a monthly contract with someone for years to come
Cheers!
It's good to outsource content too and add articles atleast twice a week. Make sure your SEO guy conducts a steady backlinking velocity apart from very good quality and variable backlinks.
It's vital to build more backlinks onto your backlinks that way more juice is passed to your money site.
Unless I'm mistaken, it's still technically blackhat when you create backlinks on your own. Anyway, as long as the backlinks appear natural to google, you should be OK.
Cheers,
ytterium
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I've been hit across the board with this Panda 2.6 and here are my observations:
My large sites, pure white hat 100+ pages of unique quality content are down the most. Ouch.
My micro niche sites are all down a few spots but it looks like it wont be too hard to recover. Some of these have quality content and some is outsourced Filipino crap (no offense intended to Filipinos).
My autoblogs seem unaffected but it is hard to tell since I wasn't ranking for major keywords, just bringing in longtail traffic and none of them got a ton of traffic anyway. These are all spun/translated scraped content.
My large sites, pure white hat 100+ pages of unique quality content are down the most. Ouch.
My micro niche sites are all down a few spots but it looks like it wont be too hard to recover. Some of these have quality content and some is outsourced Filipino crap (no offense intended to Filipinos).
My autoblogs seem unaffected but it is hard to tell since I wasn't ranking for major keywords, just bringing in longtail traffic and none of them got a ton of traffic anyway. These are all spun/translated scraped content.