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What happened to PayPal?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by tronox, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. tronox

    tronox Power Member

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    I've noticed that this company is slowly but surely going downhill. Removing withdrawal options as years go by, vague and shitty support, longer and longer waiting times, etc. If you ask them why I can only withdraw money to U.S bank account they don't answer or just answer that I can transfer to U.S bank account (like fucking robots). Basically I have some money in my old PayPal account and turns out that I can only buy stuff (not everywhere though, options are declining too) or send money to someone else who happens to have PP account. So, basically, after a few years, PayPal money will become monopoly money? Or Am I missing something?

    I also noticed that everyone still uses this fiat money, a large number of affiliate programs still only pay to PayPal account...

    PayPal debit card: https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/debit-card (404)
     
  2. nakaam30

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    there are plenty online payment getaways alternatives you can choose from if you don't like paypal
     
  3. tronox

    tronox Power Member

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    Read: "a large number of affiliate programs still only pay to PayPal account..."

    I use more than 1 affiliate program but only one offers payments through SKRILL, swift or payoneer. Others can do it only through PayPal.

    Need more suggestions.
     
  4. The Nix

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    I don't really love PayPal, but I think I have a rather different experience compared to most.

    PayPal Support has been nicer and more accommodating than the years past. I "like" them more now than before. Though the word "like" was used loosely.
     
  5. tronox

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    I would love paypal but I don't live in the greatest god damn country on the whole fucking world, god bless 'Murica!
     
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    HEY.... Murica is like the N word.. you cant say it unless you are from here... :p

    All jokes aside.. going downhill.. I have had issues with them since 08 when i started using them... non existent customer service... Nazi like attitudes AKA freezing funds because they feel like it... they act like a bank but are not bound by laws created to protect people from banks... in fact i just got an email about a class action lawsuit against them... https://www.accountholdsettlement.com/
     
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  7. tronox

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    My question would be - how long till people stop using it and when will it go bankrupt (maybe it already did)? Doing shit like this is just...
     
  8. VeyronXS

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    At India, PP is not allowed too and many CCs are unrecognized. This is quite a turn-off for the nation as well as a loss to PP - less one avenue to profit. However, they're one of the biggest payment processor hence it's up to their calling and we can't do anything about, no?

    Peace,
    VXS
     
  9. Sythix

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    I'm not in love with PayPal either, but being an American with a US bank account and always doing everything by the book, I've had very little problems. There was awhile my account kept getting frozen for "unusual spending activity" but it didn't take anything more than a phone call to clear up, but slightly annoying. I do remember getting some cunt bitch on the phone for customer service but I literally hung up on her and reconnected with some dude who handled my shit in like two minutes.

    I do feel they kind of monopolized the industry and may be getting lazy, but as one of the major processors in the world, we kinda just have to deal with it, at least for now.
     
  10. tronox

    tronox Power Member

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    Well, actually there are many competitors and I'm just waiting till people start using a payment processor that is not so fucked up.

    To answer to your question - we can do something about it.
     
  11. Capo Dei Capi

    Capo Dei Capi BANNED BANNED

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    What about getting a US bank account so you can use paypal?
     
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  12. tronox

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    "Deal with it" - perfect business model for multinational company, oops I mean, only one-national now :)

    "Getting lazy" - well, I hope all the competitors will not "get lazy" when PayPal does.
     
  13. VeyronXS

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    Indeed, I concur to you on 'something' but it's not easy per se. Some payment processors out there are linked to "High-risk Merchant Gateways" and offer to accept payments pertaining to explicit contents. To avoid (strict) compliance, imo, I don't think they'll give up their status just to outbeat PP.

    Do share with me your thoughts.
     
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  14. tronox

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    Not us citizen, not planning to move just to withdraw few hundred bucks.
     
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    PayPal isn't perfect, but our community is the reason its so fucked up. Every other day I see threads about stealth accounts and how to cheat the system, so their security is super strict now. It's because of foreign scammers who try and take advantage of the service. The next payment processor to go big will have to deal with the same thing.

    I've had my account frozen several times, but I'd rather call and verify my identity then get my account cleaned out and get a "sorry about your luck" email from pp.
     
  16. Capo Dei Capi

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    You don't need to be a us citizen or a resident of the usa to have a us bank account.
     
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  17. tronox

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    How long would it take for some PayPal employees or just plain guys from Malaysia to raise funds from some capitalist cunt investors and start another PayPal? Well, if PayPal continues to do the shit they're doing, in a few years we will see another tough guy on the block.

    Maybe that guy will be, let's say, asian, he will fuck PayCunts up with karate chops and nunchucks and shit. Like Bruce Lee!
     
  18. tronox

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    Please elaborate.

    gofindanotherpaymentprocessor.jpg
     
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  19. Cryogenesis

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    The PayPal India rules are pretty shitty.

    We can literally only receive money. We can't use the PayPal balance for transactions. It charges the associated card.
    If I own a PayPal India account,I can't transfer funds to another PayPal India account. So all we can do is receive funds and withdraw them to our bank accounts and then use our cards for payments.
    Oh and the support,LMFAO. I lost an account with $2000 due to a forgotten password(hacked) cuz their support kept sending those robotic messages you were talking about.
     
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  20. serplogix

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    In india though, they are doing much better these days. There's local phone support which is way more helpful than their US/UK counterparts. They had to adhere to local reserve bank guidelines, but once they did that, now it's all much better.