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What do you think to this idea?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jonny110, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. jonny110

    jonny110 Regular Member Premium Member

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    Hey just thinking out loud here, but ...

    I build a website professing to be a powerful law firm. (Download and copy using website copier ripper, modify images etc. so I don't get a DMCA shoved up my ass). I then upload this website to a domain with the name 'Kenyon & LLoyd of London' or some official sounding shit like that.

    I then upload torrents (here's the genius) to several well used file sharing networks. The torrents are the latest movie available for download, ie. Slumdog. Along with the movie I have an .exe file which when run sends me the IP address, network details and system info of the person using it to my email (easy to do).

    The .exe file is called something like 'Free DVD Burner', 'DVD Recorder', 'Watch using this' etc.

    The .exe file displays a 'Program crashed' page, or 'Cannot be used with this processor type' (if using Vista you will be used to this!) and shuts down after sending me the relevant info.

    I then send the ISP a demand for the address of the person who's IP I logged.

    The ISP sends me the relevant info and I then send the unsuspecting person a demand for £500 for copyright infringenment, logging all the system info, IP address, computer name - the full shabang. This would be undeniable proof, as the system info cannot be faked (I don't think) even though any old IP can.

    The £500 makes it all go away.

    Just asking because I have heard of several UK law firms doing something similar, and it seems like real easy money.

    Opinions please.
     
  2. silver

    silver Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    IMO I would never do such a jerkish thing. And I don't think it's legal either, kinda like blackmailing.
     
  3. jonny110

    jonny110 Regular Member Premium Member

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    Yep would be pretty nastly wouldn't it? Yet people are getting clean away with doing it. Over 25,000 UK citizens have received letters regarding supposed 'copyright infringement'. Check the link below.

    http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Talk:UK_p...n_evidence_from_DigiProtect_GmbH,_18_Nov_2008
     
  4. keinehabe

    keinehabe Supreme Member

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    bad idea honestly :) why to steal from poor peoples who's maybe looking for some free p0rns or other things on p2p :)? steal from company's who can afford to lose few bucks ...
     
  5. subz78

    subz78 Newbie

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    i REALLY hope its not that easy to get hold of peoples address - surely they would need to verify who's making this demand?
     
  6. SEODr

    SEODr BANNED BANNED

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    don't think its legal!!! its a blackhat forum!!!:)
     
  7. rockamore1

    rockamore1 Junior Member

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    Very illegal and assholish. Thats stealing. I don't agree with it at all because its hurting people. Blackhat techniques are great when they are only unethical. But Illegal and hurting people...Uh no. I would hope for you to get caught and tossed in jail. May as well be a Nigerian scamming people like that.
     
  8. jonny110

    jonny110 Regular Member Premium Member

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    Yep I wouldn't do it myself, but like I say there are people in the UK - law firms whose customers include the BBC - who are getting away with it. And no, they do not have to verify your IP. It's extortion. Check this link for more proof.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2008/12/davenport_lyons_threatening_le.html

    It's really shit when companies, so called 'legal' entities can go around threatening innocent individuals with court, fines etc. when they do not have a shred of evidence - except an out of date IP address which could have been easily forged or hacked wirelessly.

    Only 2 weeks ago I got a letter threatening me with court action for a service with Usenext which I stopped over 2 years ago. Unbelievable. Thing is, people pay them, that's the problem.

    When your granny gets a letter through the door saying pay up or else what's she going to do?

    Companies like this need stopping but the UK government seems hell bent on virtually encouraging them. Must be a good source of tax, that's all I can say.

    Sorry if I am winging.
     
  9. hotwicked

    hotwicked Regular Member

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    Pretending to be a law firm (or lawyer) is against the law in nearly every country. So bad idea.
     
  10. blackzeus

    blackzeus Registered Member

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    I think it's a brilliant idea. But i agree that it's bad for poor people. Can the program you said be picked up by anti-virus?
     
  11. voldemort

    voldemort Newbie

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    What a disgusting idea... crap. Don't you try it. Think of ideas to screw corporates not ordinary folks.
     
  12. demoniox

    demoniox Registered Member

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    thats stealing
     
  13. jonny110

    jonny110 Regular Member Premium Member

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    It might be detected by some anti virus as it will try to connect to the internet without the users permission.

    Didn't say I would be doing it by the way. Read the thread. This IS happening in the UK right NOW carried out by large London based law firms.
     
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    gina.alessia Newbie

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    You`re right. Don`t screw poor bastards who download codecs to see their favorit p0rn movie :)
     
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    vegasvillan Regular Member

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    Karma is a mother fucker...Everything negative comes back on you.
     
  16. jonny110

    jonny110 Regular Member Premium Member

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    Sure does, and I hope it bites the assholes doing this right now. Who do they think they are?
     
  17. tissa2

    tissa2 Junior Member

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    You ISP is not obliged to pas on any personal information... The least that would happen is your ISP will send the person the infringement notice, stating that if they dont stop they will close there account... Thats it!
     
  18. Kontra

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    jonny......on the surface this seems like an awesome idea to make some cash. However, I feel like if you get caught for doing this you could be seriously screwed. I seems like you have some pretty big balls for even suggesting an idea like this. You should do it for a week or something and make a little money, but don't get greedy or you could end up in serious shit.
     
  19. usedagain

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    I don't support this as a means to make cash, but I do support the anarchistic behavior. Why should only record companies be allowed to sue when someone downloads a file with such and such a name or copyright info on it? The whole system is farked. If you can do this as a spoof of the idiocracy of the system I fully support it.

    Actually handling the cash is an issue, it is completely illegal and 25 years behind bars with Bubba isn't all that fun.
     
  20. ppssm

    ppssm Newbie

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    Not a good idea, and it is not doable.
    They will not provide you their customer' s details unless you are authority.