What business can I start without PayPal ?

FriedrichWN

FriedrichWN

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I live in Turkey and we don't have PayPal here. I was planning on reselling online services (including SMM services, but not limited to) from Turkey to outside but I realized I pretty much can't take payments without PayPal. What are my options to make money online without PayPal?
 
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FriedrichWN said:
I live in Turkey and we don't have PayPal here. I was planning on reselling online services (including SMM services, but not limited to) from Turkey to outside but I realized I pretty much can't take payments without PayPal. What are my options to make money online without PayPal?
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If paypal is a key part of your business model just go for a stealth one. But anything can be sold online with or without paypal. Can't you get a stripe account in turkey? Or go for payoneer or revolut or monese or whatever
 
any cash business ;)
 
FriedrichWN said:
I live in Turkey and we don't have PayPal here. I was planning on reselling online services (including SMM services, but not limited to) from Turkey to outside but I realized I pretty much can't take payments without PayPal. What are my options to make money online without PayPal?
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Any business, you can use Stripe for payments, but you're going to have to accept the fact that people won't be able to pay you via Paypal, so that means less customers. Is the Paypal website not working in Turkey or you're just not able to register to Paypal from Turkey? In this case (second scenario) you can open an LTD in the UK or something like that.
 
MMJason said:
BTC payments
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unfortunately, they aren't that common. most of the time customers just go to another vendor because of trust issues, unless you cut your prices which I suppose makes it viable for them to take the risk.

andartecca01 said:
find a gateway payment in turkey
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no gateway to PayPal, no proper payment provider that works properly with foreign credit cards (apparently Turkey is in some kind of a banking blacklist so whenever let's say an American or a European uses a Turkish online POS (Point Of Sales Terminal) system automatically flags it as a fraud.

SunnyLeon said:
If paypal is a key part of your business model just go for a stealth one. But anything can be sold online with or without paypal. Can't you get a stripe account in turkey? Or go for payoneer or revolut or monese or whatever
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Stripe is also not available in Turkey. Payoneer, Skrill, and Transferwise are all available but it is really hard to find clients that use those.

nouveauriche said:
Any business, you can use Stripe for payments, but you're going to have to accept the fact that people won't be able to pay you via Paypal, so that means less customers. Is the Paypal website not working in Turkey or you're just not able to register to Paypal from Turkey? In this case (second scenario) you can open an LTD in the UK or something like that.
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Stripe is also not available in Turkey. When you open the Paypal website you see an announcement that says PayPal ceased operations in Turkey in 2016.
(Turkish government demands that any financial service provider should have local servers in Turkey but PayPal rejected it obviously because they only have 3 servers worldwide (USA, Luxembourg, Singapore) so their license to provide financial services in Turkey got canceled)
I don't think I would be able to use a foreign PayPal account from Turkey for a long time. Also how easy is it to open an LTD in the UK? how much does it cost?
 
Use crypto
 
FriedrichWN said:
unfortunately, they aren't that common. most of the time customers just go to another vendor because of trust issues, unless you cut your prices which I suppose makes it viable for them to take the risk.



no gateway to PayPal, no proper payment provider that works properly with foreign credit cards (apparently Turkey is in some kind of a banking blacklist so whenever let's say an American or a European uses a Turkish online POS (Point Of Sales Terminal) system automatically flags it as a fraud.



Stripe is also not available in Turkey. Payoneer, Skrill, and Transferwise are all available but it is really hard to find clients that use those.



Stripe is also not available in Turkey. When you open the Paypal website you see an announcement that says PayPal ceased operations in Turkey in 2016.
(Turkish government demands that any financial service provider should have local servers in Turkey but PayPal rejected it obviously because they only have 3 servers worldwide (USA, Luxembourg, Singapore) so their license to provide financial services in Turkey got canceled)
I don't think I would be able to use a foreign PayPal account from Turkey for a long time. Also how easy is it to open an LTD in the UK? how much does it cost?
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How about using VPN? Having an LTD in the UK costs something like 2k a year depending on who you ask, and depending on Turkish laws on tax inversion (having a company in another country to pay less taxes) you can simply justify that as "i needed my company to be in the UK to accept payments via Paypal or Stripe", if that's your purpose then it's legal, cus your main goal is not avoiding taxes, paying less taxes is just the outcome, but i would suggest confronting a lawyer on this.
VPN btw allows you to access foreign websites.
 
nouveauriche said:
How about using VPN? Having an LTD in the UK costs something like 2k a year depending on who you ask, and depending on Turkish laws on tax inversion (having a company in another country to pay less taxes) you can simply justify that as "i needed my company to be in the UK to accept payments via Paypal or Stripe", if that's your purpose then it's legal, cus your main goal is not avoiding taxes, paying less taxes is just the outcome, but i would suggest confronting a lawyer on this.
VPN btw allows you to access foreign websites.
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I know what a VPN is :D I think most of the population below 40y/o here knows it.
I think a VPS or a dedicated proxy would be a better option than a VPN.
In the future one way or another I will have to incorporate offshore (maybe in estonia through e-residency).
 
FriedrichWN said:
I know what a VPN is :D I think most of the population below 40y/o here knows it.
I think a VPS or a dedicated proxy would be a better option than a VPN.
In the future one way or another I will have to incorporate offshore (maybe in estonia through e-residency).
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Yeah i meant like you can open an LTD in the UK or any other country and use VPN to access Paypal, and create the Paypal account for your company instead of you as a person. Ditto for Stripe.
 
nouveauriche said:
How about using VPN? Having an LTD in the UK costs something like 2k a year depending on who you ask, and depending on Turkish laws on tax inversion (having a company in another country to pay less taxes) you can simply justify that as "i needed my company to be in the UK to accept payments via Paypal or Stripe", if that's your purpose then it's legal, cus your main goal is not avoiding taxes, paying less taxes is just the outcome, but i would suggest confronting a lawyer on this.
VPN btw allows you to access foreign websites.
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Great post but I wouldn't use a VPN, I would take a private residential proxy or even better, european LTE proxies
 
FriedrichWN said:
I live in Turkey and we don't have PayPal here. I was planning on reselling online services (including SMM services, but not limited to) from Turkey to outside but I realized I pretty much can't take payments without PayPal. What are my options to make money online without PayPal?
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Sure you can take payment without PayPal, check most of the smm panel on this forum, they dont actually use PayPal as their main payment method
And there are ways to open stealth PayPal even if you are in an unsupported country
But I don't recommend it, PayPal is shit cause they'll end up banning your account when you have enough money in it
 
you can buy paypal business accounts. note that it is a bit expensive.
 
LoungeMedia said:
just search on google man and you will see so many ideas.
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it's not about just "ideas"!
Some countries have so many limitations. mos of these ideas are not practical for them.
it's about someone has done that and have the results that can guide you.
 
most of the business you can do with PayPal you can do without payapl, its just a payment method. you need to find alternatives to paypal that are for your country
 
If your gunna sell SMM then do yourself a favor, and do not use paypal, BTC works best for SMM but you will lose alot of customers by not offering paypal. Not worth the hassle IMO. Strictly crypto.
 
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