What black hat methods can we all agree upon doesn't work?

Nattsurfaren said:
I tried this phrase: site:blackhatworld.com BassTrackerBoats "doesn't work"

I could find this:
You mention: sometimes it doesn't work to get penalty lifted on slapped sites.
So always getting your penalty lifted on slapped sites doesn't work.


Negative seo doesn't work on sites that are authority sites.
This is the only thing I could find that you are pretty sure about.


That won't fly with most people that buy articles as they will be able to tell it was spun.
So always getting a sale from spinned articles doesn't work.

Don't expect results to be overnight.
So expecting results over night doesn't work.

The only thing I could find use full as method that doesn't work was this.
Negative seo doesn't work on sites that are authority sites

Otherwise most thing you do is helping people with suggestion, promoting your SEO services and you link pushing service, reminding people with forum rules and helping people black hat coupons.

Could you point out something more that doesn't work that I might have missed or share any experience with your fails?
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Check BTB thread out.....

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...te-search-engine-optimization-case-study.html
 
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Nattsurfaren said:
Otherwise most thing you do is helping people with suggestion, promoting your SEO services and you link pushing service, reminding people with forum rules and helping people black hat coupons.
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BTB is one of the most helpful guys on this forum.

He gives solid advice, helps people whenever he can and posts plenty of information that you could use to make money.

I've seen him set people up with websites and give them free SEO services just because he wanted to give someone a helping hand. And much more.

Perhaps you should do another search before you judge his motives and his character.
 
Trepanated said:
You're missing the point - you'll only know if you can make something work by trying it yourself.

Every method, niche, business model, sector, industry, idea, product, service - they are all littered with people who failed at them.

But every one of them also has a few people who make spectacular amounts of money with them

If you take advice from the failures of this world, you will get nowhere.
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they are all littered with people who failed at them
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And still there is so few things that we know of that doesn't work?
I mean clearly there must be a bunch of things that you shouldn't do?

If you take advice from the failures of this world, you will get nowhere.
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Ever heard of the phrase you learn from your mistakes?

Example: Jack posted about a problem he had.
BassTrackerBoats suggested that he should try this and that.
Finally it worked for Jack.
Jack learned that xxxxx doesn't work or just using xxxx doesn't work.
 
Linkwheels

I get the award for the first real answer to the question :)
 
Fear to try new things never worked for me.
The only thing that works well for me is , reading, researching and implementing that idea.
 
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Nattsurfaren said:
Ever heard of the phrase you learn from your mistakes?
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Erm... that was the exact point I was making.

Let's take media buying, or email marketing, or affiliate marketing, or anything else you want. I guarantee you will find posts on this forum from people saying they don't work.

But all that means is that they couldn't make it work. There are millionaires in all three of those examples I gave.

Don't listen to the losers. Ignore them. All you will learn from losers is how to be a loser.

Try things for yourself. Experiment. If something doesn't work, figure out why, make adjustments and then try again. That's how you find success. By learning from your own mistakes.

The quote in my signature pretty much sums up what I am saying. That was there already by the way, I didn't just add it to make my point.
 
Lol, if you only knew what I do with things people say they don't work :)

Anyway, choose whom you should listen to, there quite a few here. You will spend sometime to know them :).

A very interesting point is that, if something doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean it didn't work for OP.

My one advice, you will make 10000000 more if you stopped listening and start finding out the right information on your own
 
Trepanated said:
Try things for yourself. Experiment. If something doesn't work, figure out why, make adjustments and then try again. That's how you find success. By learning from your own mistakes.
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100% True! You need to make things, take action and fail to learn! I add that it is very important to study the marketing before being able to apply any method.
Many people believe to read the secret method and be able to do milions , it is not so! Even if you have the formula for Coca-Cola does not mean that you can produce a good Coke ;)
 
asap1 said:
Linkwheels

I get the award for the first real answer to the question :)
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You should share your experience. How many times have you tried it. What did you do. Would be interesting to know more.
 
All jokes aside, pretty much every method shared here has some potential (more or less). Let's say you want to start a new search engine... now, we can all agree that chances are very very slim, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. Maybe you won't be able to do it, but someone else will ... so the plan was not wrong.

I've seen money being made from such stupid things that I wouldn't say a definitive NO to any method. Even ad f l y, believe it or not my second attempt at making money online was with them and I made around $120 in 5 days by posting shortened links to funny gifs on groups and pages. It was not something that could have worked for a long time, but it was actually that money that I used to buy my first domain and hosting. Would I recommend that method today? Absolutely not, but that doesn't mean it it can't be done if you put hard work into it. And come up with some twists.
 
Most people do not try method hard enough. They usually blatantly follow something without using own brain, without being creative. I know it is difficult as newbie. But I was same idiot years ago. Newbies usually do not have any clue what to do and usually give up very fast. But trust me, even when 100 people say it do not work there is somebody who bank of it. You gotta simply try it hard.

To get 100% results you need put 100% effort to make it work.
 
These forms of discussions are pretty pointless, some people will fail at everything, even with a step by step spoon fed method.
Other people will succeed immediately with a method that has been declared dead. (NO method is dead BTW)
Yes, it can be useful for people to share what is working, isn't working for them but I always take everything with a pinch of salt UNLESS I know the true ability of that person.
I don't make business decisions on what is posted on a forum, I make decisions based on testing and experimenting myself, I may take advice from people I trust but ultimately you can never be 100% sure without trying it for yourself.
 
lord1027 said:
I've seen money being made from such stupid things that I wouldn't say a definitive NO to any method.
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Haha - me too!

In fact I take inspiration from ridiculous ideas - I've even started threads about a few of them:

What if someone said you could make money by selling your own shit? Can't be done?

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/737307-could-ultimate-method-now-you-can-literally-sell-your-own-shit.html

Or that you could charge $40 to sharpen someone's pencil? Stupid idea?

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/738138-ultimate-method-2-sharpen-pencils-40-pop.html

There are people making money by charging to send proper bullshit to people in the mail - and glitter - and cocks.

I read just this morning about someone who started a similar site to ship a potato to someone in the mail

They don't even use an envelope! They just stick the stamps on the spud. For $10 a time.

Don't believe me?

http://www.mailaspud.com/

Like I said - don't listen to the people who say something doesn't or won't work.
 
Trepanated said:
Erm... that was the exact point I was making.

Let's take media buying, or email marketing, or affiliate marketing, or anything else you want. I guarantee you will find posts on this forum from people saying they don't work.

But all that means is that they couldn't make it work. There are millionaires in all three of those examples I gave.

Don't listen to the losers. Ignore them. All you will learn from losers is how to be a loser.

Try things for yourself. Experiment. If something doesn't work, figure out why, make adjustments and then try again. That's how you find success. By learning from your own mistakes.

The quote in my signature pretty much sums up what I am saying. That was there already by the way, I didn't just add it to make my point.
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I can feel your dislike of negative people which I totally agree is a pest but on the other hand ignoring trends and research before you do anything is a bit silly.
The thing is I refuse to believe that there is almost nothing that doesn't work. Why is it so hard for people to share that?

I can share one thing:
When I built 500 youtube accounts with no backlinks and hoping it would make me a decent amount of money I experienced that it has not been working for 2 years.
There it is. Not so hard. Now I saved people a lot of time if they would try exactly that. They would think maybe if I add back links to each of them it would work for them.
Then someone else that already tried that and share how he did that and failed could let people know that something more is necessary.

Another thing that I know will very likely not work is buying link promotion services from fiverr.
Everyone that read my youtube journey thread knows that I tried a bunch of different services to get more reliable data. This is something I'm sure not to try again.
Do you see where I'm coming from?
 
Nattsurfaren said:
I can share one thing:
When I built 500 youtube accounts with no backlinks and hoping it would make me a decent amount of money I experienced that it has not been working for 2 years.
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I've built 50 YT accounts with no backlinks, uploaded a bunch of videos on each and made money and am still making money from that little test, and 98% of it was automated. I did that little deal about a year and a half ago and the money is still coming in.

Our twist was different.

To quote Lord0127 - "I've seen money being made from such stupid things that I wouldn't say a definitive NO to any method."
 
The funny thing is every real thing listed in this thread, ive made money with.... stop talking guys, take action.
 
I think it totally okay to share something that doesn't work if they share their experience and method they tried. It is silly that nobody wants to share their fail just because people think it would keep people from trying it out. I would rather see more shared fail experience than a cloud of cryptic and hidden methods given by someone and then people that will have to guess how he/she did it and then 99.99% of them fails. This is something I'm really tired of.
 
if i were you i would probably give up when 10 youtube accounts doesnt work in 1 month.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
I've built 50 YT accounts with no backlinks, uploaded a bunch of videos on each and made money and am still making money from that little test, and 98% of it was automated. I did that little deal about a year and a half ago and the money is still coming in.

Our twist was different.

To quote Lord0127 - "I've seen money being made from such stupid things that I wouldn't say a definitive NO to any method."
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I got a couple of sales from mine but it's shit money.
It worked for you and not for me so it needs more detail to know for sure what doesn't work.
 
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