What are you Using? PC or Mac (Poll)
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Autumn
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Obviously you haven't been to an engineering or web development conference lately.
There's seems to be a misconception dating back to the OS 9 days that Macs are for designers only. Macs may still be good for design but what makes them powerful for us spammers is that you get a fully featured Unix userland and bash shell underneath the clean and efficient Mac desktop.
The hardware is great quality and everything just works, unlike when you're trying to get Linux to work on a laptop (or even Windows with its frequent breakages and required maintenance), meaning you can just plug it in and get to work with no fucking around.
Even the president of the United States uses a Mac!
Roparadise
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Obviously you haven't been to an engineering or web development conference lately.
There's seems to be a misconception dating back to the OS 9 days that Macs are for designers only. Macs may still be good for design but what makes them powerful for us spammers is that you get a fully featured Unix userland and bash shell underneath the clean and efficient Mac desktop.
The hardware is great quality and everything just works, unlike when you're trying to get Linux to work on a laptop (or even Windows with its frequent breakages and required maintenance), meaning you can just plug it in and get to work with no fucking around.
Even the president of the United States uses a Mac!
But its still better to built a custom mac if you know how to,apple overcharges.
A $3000 mac can be built for probably $1500. Which means you can spend $1500 on a VPS,proxies,seo tools,some domains and hosting and still have alot left over to spend on ads.
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Autumn
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Absolutely not. You can't build your own laptop and Apple's unibody hardware is the best quality out there at the moment, except for maybe the Panasonic Toughbook, which is a totally different niche and unsuited to a daily work machine.
Apple isn't "overcharging" - they're charging what their (generally affluent) customers are willing to pay.
The point of buying a proper Mac is that you get an engineered combination of hardware and software that "just works." You pay a premium to avoid the fucking around of building your own rig and trying to get the software to work (no EFI converters, compatibility issues etc). The point of paying extra is that you get software that is designed to work with specific hardware and work with no fucking around.
That $1500 you may or may not save is quickly diminished by your extra productivity on an integrated machine and the time spent building and maintaining your Hackintosh. If I consider my time to be worth $50-100 an hour (in fact I would say it's worth a lot more), then you do the math. Also, with a Hackintosh, you run the risk that every time there's an update that your computer might stop working if Apple decides they don't want people running OS X on non-Apple hardware anymore.
Yes, Macs cost more than a PC, but you're paying for concrete advantages for a given usage scenario (that of a professional web developer and marketer whose time is money). Amortized daily over the life of the computer, the difference ends up being negligible.
Roparadise
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I just personally find building a computer to be more rewarding then a store bought one,cause I can take pride in that I put it together. I personally am running windows 7 since I have a amd cpu,and I've never had any of the problems the hardcore MAC fans say windows causes.
I do love other mac products like the ipad and ipod.
Mokodoki
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There's a lot of great things about Macs and a lot of terrible things about them. First of all, I used Windows my whole life and moved to owning a Macbook Pro when I started college. I thought it was the best thing I ever did for about a year.
Unfortunately, in the span of two years, I've had two logic board replacements and now need another one. The drivers supplied for the Bootcamp side of the equation (which I use for Windows-only programs) are subpar at best and frequently cause irritating and unsolvable issues.
I have become much less disenchanted with the Apple "magic" that people describe as everything "just working" as my MBP has never "just worked" correctly.
However, despite all my suffering, I would definitely buy a Mac again, just not another laptop from them. I love the OSX operating system, and I love the way it works with other Apple products. Mac Pros are beautiful machines that do exactly what you need them to do with little problems along the way.
If you do plan to buy a laptop from them, be sure to check the forums for the latest issues and any potential defects in your particular laptop model before purchasing. It can save you a lot of frustration as some models, in the past, have suffered from terrible defects (2008 MBP).
Owning a Mac has been a unique experience and I definitely would never trade it or belittle it. However, it's important to understand both the company and the products before you leap into it.
Unfortunately, in the span of two years, I've had two logic board replacements and now need another one. The drivers supplied for the Bootcamp side of the equation (which I use for Windows-only programs) are subpar at best and frequently cause irritating and unsolvable issues.
I have become much less disenchanted with the Apple "magic" that people describe as everything "just working" as my MBP has never "just worked" correctly.
However, despite all my suffering, I would definitely buy a Mac again, just not another laptop from them. I love the OSX operating system, and I love the way it works with other Apple products. Mac Pros are beautiful machines that do exactly what you need them to do with little problems along the way.
If you do plan to buy a laptop from them, be sure to check the forums for the latest issues and any potential defects in your particular laptop model before purchasing. It can save you a lot of frustration as some models, in the past, have suffered from terrible defects (2008 MBP).
Owning a Mac has been a unique experience and I definitely would never trade it or belittle it. However, it's important to understand both the company and the products before you leap into it.
timothywcrane
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3 Winbloxes and 1 Debian. Virtualbox on all of them for other distro use. I usede to have a MAC, and nothing against them, lovely machines. I have to admit I threw Yellow Dog on it though. All of my server tools get thrown between XAMPP and LAMPP portable drives, and I notice no difference (except in XAMPP I usually resort to webcrons for simplicity).
Most of the tools I get here are winbox, but when I find a way to add their functionality on my own, I usually write for linux, as hosting is easy and cheap to come by.
Most of the tools I get here are winbox, but when I find a way to add their functionality on my own, I usually write for linux, as hosting is easy and cheap to come by.
bertbaby
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Windows users treat their PCs like appliances while the Mac owners stroke their machines as they mutter "My precious " over and over again. Two different approaches to a common need, one is practical whereas the other borders on being a cult. As they say to each his own.
Autumn
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Quite to the contrary, I am technology agnostic and use the best tool for the job, which happens to be a Mac in my own scenario. I couldn't care less about Apple as a company, and I fear that they are going too closed with their development model, but the product is great.
Macs have enormous penetration amongst Unix developers, scientists, and engineers, generally also people who only care about (and are only being paid for) results. Even in our own industry, go to AdTech and see how many Macs are being lugged around. The passionate Windows apologists tend to be non-technical consumers of other people's software, or stuck on the platform for software reasons.
