Wengthemeng scam us YTSTARTUP

Goldz · Sep 27, 2021

As I can no longer post in his offer of video creation on Youtube, I do so here.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/ytstartup-com-youtube-automation-channels-monetized-faceless-everything-done-for-you-build-your-viral-video-empire-today.1302132/page-35#post-14512766

Watch out for him, he's a scam. My partner and I have been paying since May and we still have no videos on our Youtube channel.

We haven't heard from him for 1 month neither here nor on Skype.

He scammed us!

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BassTrackerBoats · Oct 5, 2021

Shit List Request Approved

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FinishLine · Oct 5, 2021

Like many others who saw the YT journey on BHW, I decided to try Jon's YTStartup service for an additional YT channel. After reading the reviews, I decided to place my initial order for 10 videos on April 26. I already run a few monetized youtube channels. My idea was to mix in some of these faceless videos along with my regular videos and leverage some of the work.

I truly have been understanding since April...but its now October and I still do not have access to any videos! There have been tons of emails back and forth, tons of excuses, tons of skype back and forth. All excuses for why something has not happened. No response to my messages on skype for weeks!

He has provided me several "monetized channels... that were demonetized immediately.
That's not the issue here!
I paid for 60 videos, and still have with no access to them. On the notion board he has recently provided me only shows 43 videos... Which I have do not have google drive access to. I initially paid $2000 for 10 and a channel, then ordered another 50 for $7000 a total of 60 videos = $9000.

I have requested my money back from Jon, and requested google drive access,

but it turns out....
Jon has Also scammed the video production company he was using!
They will not release access to me till Jon pays them!

So I am asking for a full refund from Jon and Wengthemeng account banned.

Thank you

FinishLine · Oct 5, 2021

RainyManny · Oct 6, 2021

Also bought 30 videos for $4000 from Jon back in April. I've given him ample of time (2-3x the time he said it'll take things to be done) considering his "situation" in the hospital but still nothing gets done and always constantly needs reminded to get things done. Wanted a refund but was denied because the order was "already delivered" when it clearly hasn't been. Stopped responding on Skype and WhatsApp.

First channel was demonetized halfway and we decided to delete the old videos and boost watch hours with 1 hour video. That didn't happen
Was given 2 more channels, 1 dropped subs and the other got demonetized. Video uploads never happened on either on them even after waiting a month on one channel.
Was told he'll make 30 more video + 5 videos free and another channel but nothing after that while leaving me on read.

ysmstr · Oct 6, 2021

I too used the services offered by YT Startup when it was first offered here. I started with an initial package costing $3000 for 20 videos and a monetized YT Channel.

2nd Transaction on May 15th was for 1400 and 10 videos then on June 7th money was paid via crypto to bc1qvhdxvaessw3d2cwq03sgrar9s8r4xcgqyvy97y for $3750 for 30 videos making the total $8150.
When the service first started, videos were getting made and posted on the channel, but soon enough videos started taking longer and longer to create, longer to finalize and post to the channel. Then the original YT account got demonetized. This all happened around June and from that point it took another 2 months to provide a new YT account and no video was ever posted.

His skype status was then changed in august claiming that he was sick and little to no communication. This was odd considering he claimed to have a large team behind him providing support. At this point after going back to the original thread, it was clear that several his clients were having the same issue and not providing any recourse for shut down accounts. Since it was happening to most of the channels he provided, it was clear that this part of his service was faulty.

Now after digging into the situation I have found that he was not paying the production company who were doing all the work. This was a big part of the lie as well since he claimed these were all direct employees that he had control over and managed.

Aside from investing over 8k into this and not receiving any benefit, its unfortunate that we were scammed like this. Jon gave the impression he cared about his reputation but now he screwed over good passive income clients over maybe 200-300k.

FinishLine · Oct 6, 2021

Does @wengthemeng, have 24 hours to respond to the original post on the shit list thread on Sept 27, 2021?
He was on BHW Oct 4, 2021, (screenshot in the Shit List thread)
Or is it 24 hours from when the last person who posts?

BassTrackerBoats · Oct 6, 2021

FinishLine said:
Does @wengthemeng, have 24 hours to respond to the original post on the shit list thread on Sept 27, 2021?
He was on BHW Oct 4, 2021, (screenshot in the Shit List thread)
Or is it 24 hours from when the last person who posts?

It goes to when I opened the thread.

Please check the post I made as to this thread.

wengthemeng · Oct 7, 2021

FinishLine said:
Like many others who saw the YT journey on BHW, I decided to try Jon's YTStartup service for an additional YT channel. After reading the reviews, I decided to place my initial order for 10 videos on April 26. I already run a few monetized youtube channels. My idea was to mix in some of these faceless videos along with my regular videos and leverage some of the work.

I truly have been understanding since April...but its now October and I still do not have access to any videos! There have been tons of emails back and forth, tons of excuses, tons of skype back and forth. All excuses for why something has not happened. No response to my messages on skype for weeks!

He has provided me several "monetized channels... that were demonetized immediately.
That's not the issue here!
I paid for 60 videos, and still have with no access to them. On the notion board he has recently provided me only shows 43 videos... Which I have do not have google drive access to. I initially paid $2000 for 10 and a channel, then ordered another 50 for $7000 a total of 60 videos = $9000.

I have requested my money back from Jon, and requested google drive access,

but it turns out....
Jon has Also scammed the video production company he was using!
They will not release access to me till Jon pays them!

So I am asking for a full refund from Jon and Wengthemeng account banned.

Thank you

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Hello @FinishLine , we apologize for the inconvenience. We have no record of you ordering 50 videos. We see your screenshot of the $7000 invoice but we'll need to confirm to which account you paid that amount to as well as the payment confirmation number. Can you PM me the confirmation?

Goldz said:
As I can no longer post in his offer of video creation on Youtube, I do so here.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/ytstartup-com-youtube-automation-channels-monetized-faceless-everything-done-for-you-build-your-viral-video-empire-today.1302132/page-35#post-14512766

Watch out for him, he's a scam. My partner and I have been paying since May and we still have no videos on our Youtube channel.

We haven't heard from him for 1 month neither here nor on Skype.

He scammed us!View attachment 186762

Hello @Goldz I apologize for the inconvenience. Can you please send us your payment confirmation privately? We do not have a record of taking payment from you. In addition, please send us your skype and a screenshot of who you have been talking to.

RainyManny said:
Also bought 30 videos for $4000 from Jon back in April. I've given him ample of time (2-3x the time he said it'll take things to be done) considering his "situation" in the hospital but still nothing gets done and always constantly needs reminded to get things done. Wanted a refund but was denied because the order was "already delivered" when it clearly hasn't been. Stopped responding on Skype and WhatsApp.

First channel was demonetized halfway and we decided to delete the old videos and boost watch hours with 1 hour video. That didn't happen

Was given 2 more channels, 1 dropped subs and the other got demonetized. Video uploads never happened on either on them even after waiting a month on one channel.

Was told he'll make 30 more video + 5 videos free and another channel but nothing after that while leaving me on read.

Hello @RainyManny Can you please send me your payment confirmation, the name of your channel, and how many videos you paid for?

@FinishLine @RainyManny @Goldz @ysmstr

We apologize for everything that is happening. We have been extensively looking into the issue and we have found that someone or some group of people have been using our service under our name. They also got access to our Skype account and has been messaging clients without our knowledge. We've already brought up with the Mods.

We are truly looking into resolving this issue for you in the quickest way possible.

Please reply to the following questions as soon as possible so we can quickly resolve this issue:

1. When did you make your payment?
2. To which account & payment platform did you make your payment to?
3. What was the amount?
4. Please send us the payment confirmation number(s) or a screenshot of payment confirmation.

If you haven't already, please go ahead and file a chargeback for the payment made.

We understand that we are still responsible for certain services and products and will do whatever we can to resolve these issues and return what funds we can, accordingly.

We sincerely apologize again for all this.

moh531 · Oct 7, 2021

I too have been scammed by him and I made a payment of $6750 back in February 13th for 50 videos and he uploaded about 10 on the first channel that got demonetized then he said he will provide a second channel and after a lot of back and forth he re-uploaded a few of the videos on the second channel and that also got demonetized. Since then I have not received any responses from him on Skype and he also took a while to respond on BHW. I have provided all of the information he requested above via BHW PM and will wait for his response. I have also provided my screenshots showing the payment proofs and his unresponsiveness here.

FinishLine · Oct 7, 2021

-$2000 on by Paypal on April 26, 2021
-$7000. by Stripe on May 26, 2021
See attached Paid
What date did 'someone else' start impersonating you and also accepted your money?
Was it really you communicating with all of us on the BHW thread?
and you/someone continued to have a conversation on Skype and email for months 5 and 6 months and you did not know about this?

wengthemeng said:
@FinishLine @RainyManny @Goldz @ysmstr

We apologize for everything that is happening. We have been extensively looking into the issue and we have found that someone or some group of people have been using our service under our name. They also got access to our Skype account and has been messaging clients without our knowledge. We've already brought up with the Mods.

We are truly looking into resolving this issue for you in the quickest way possible.

Please reply to the following questions as soon as possible so we can quickly resolve this issue:

1. When did you make your payment?
2. To which account & payment platform did you make your payment to?
3. What was the amount?
4. Please send us the payment confirmation number(s) or a screenshot of payment confirmation.

If you haven't already, please go ahead and file a chargeback for the payment made.

We understand that we are still responsible for certain services and products and will do whatever we can to resolve these issues and return what funds we can, accordingly.

We sincerely apologize again for all this.

wengthemeng · Oct 7, 2021

FinishLine said:
y Stripe on May 26, 2021
See attached Paid
What date did 'someone else' start impersonating you and also accepted your money?
Was it really you communic

1. We're not sure exactly what date but we stopped accepting new payments and clients through BHW after May.
2. BHW is me as and have two-factor authentication on
3. Our Skype account was hacked by one of our project managers who we believe was responsible for this. We believe he was communicating with clients and then deleting conversation history so we wouldn't notice.

Regarding your $7000 invoice, please go ahead and initiate the chargeback. Could you also send PM us a copy of the actual invoice so we can report this to Stripe on our end?

We'll work with you on the $2000 invoice through PayPal as that was confirmed and made through us.

FinishLine · Oct 8, 2021

wengthemeng said:
1. We're not sure exactly what date but we stopped accepting new payments and clients through BHW after May.
2. BHW is me as and have two-factor authentication on
3. Our Skype account was hacked by one of our project managers who we believe was responsible for this. We believe he was communicating with clients and then deleting conversation history so we wouldn't notice.

Regarding your $7000 invoice, please go ahead and initiate the chargeback. Could you also send PM us a copy of the actual invoice so we can report this to Stripe on our end?

We'll work with you on the $2000 invoice through PayPal as that was confirmed and made through us.

Copies of Paid Invoices have been PM to @wengthemeng
I have initiated a chargeback for the $2000 on by Paypal Paid on April 26, 2021
I can not initiate the charge back on Strip since I do not have an account. I directly paid the invoice you sent me. Please return the $7000.

RainyManny · Oct 8, 2021

wengthemeng said:
Hello @FinishLine , we apologize for the inconvenience. We have no record of you ordering 50 videos. We see your screenshot of the $7000 invoice but we'll need to confirm to which account you paid that amount to as well as the payment confirmation number. Can you PM me the confirmation?

Hello @Goldz I apologize for the inconvenience. Can you please send us your payment confirmation privately? We do not have a record of taking payment from you. In addition, please send us your skype and a screenshot of who you have been talking to.

Hello @RainyManny Can you please send me your payment confirmation, the name of your channel, and how many videos you paid for?

@FinishLine @RainyManny @Goldz @ysmstr

We apologize for everything that is happening. We have been extensively looking into the issue and we have found that someone or some group of people have been using our service under our name. They also got access to our Skype account and has been messaging clients without our knowledge. We've already brought up with the Mods.

We are truly looking into resolving this issue for you in the quickest way possible.

Please reply to the following questions as soon as possible so we can quickly resolve this issue:

1. When did you make your payment?
2. To which account & payment platform did you make your payment to?
3. What was the amount?
4. Please send us the payment confirmation number(s) or a screenshot of payment confirmation.

If you haven't already, please go ahead and file a chargeback for the payment made.

We understand that we are still responsible for certain services and products and will do whatever we can to resolve these issues and return what funds we can, accordingly.

We sincerely apologize again for all this.

Channel name: Crypto Surge
Payed for 30 videos for $4000 using Zelle

1. April 28, 2021
2. See attached screenshots, paid through Zelle so won't be able to chargeback.
3. $4000, split between 2 payments of $2000 due to sending limits
4. See attached screenshots

Since I've closed my bank account, will have to go to a branch to get transaction #'s if screenshots isn't enough proof.

nalterbekannter · Oct 8, 2021

wengthemeng said:
1. We're not sure exactly what date but we stopped accepting new payments and clients through BHW after May.
2. BHW is me as and have two-factor authentication on
3. Our Skype account was hacked by one of our project managers who we believe was responsible for this. We believe he was communicating with clients and then deleting conversation history so we wouldn't notice.

Regarding your $7000 invoice, please go ahead and initiate the chargeback. Could you also send PM us a copy of the actual invoice so we can report this to Stripe on our end?

We'll work with you on the $2000 invoice through PayPal as that was confirmed and made through us.

Jon is telling some awful bullshit. I did pay 12 April via Bitcoin and we talked on Skype only, from any point we continued having the conversation and there was no 3th Person.

If someone is from the US and could help me finding a lawyer, i would love to pay even more.

capersky · Oct 8, 2021

Hey @wengthemeng, you better know me, you make a lot of false promises, last time you came in hurry, and you uploaded Crap someone videos (Videos Contain Promotion) on my channel, You have to Provide me New YT Monetized Channel + 10 Videos with Adsense account, or you can refund me a full payment.

Goldz · Oct 9, 2021

Hey @wengthemeng , i sent you a MP for refund. Thanks

CodeBreakers · Oct 10, 2021

@wengthemeng I'm still waiting for my refund.

nalterbekannter · Oct 10, 2021

I checked conversation in Skype again, since it has been a long time now (We started 12. April 2021). I can easily proof that there was no 3rd Person in my conversation and that i talked with him personally on the phone even beyond the date he told, he had no Access to Skype anymore.

liquardo · Oct 10, 2021

I also have the same problem, ordered 30 videos from @wengthemeng via BTC after talks on Whatsapp, but he stopped responding a couple weeks ago, after failing to deliver a monetizeable channel.

Also all video show as completed, but they require access to download and I was never granted access to download those videos.

I'm assuming no hopes for a refund considering how many people he scammed, but here's to hoping.

And definitely no chance for someone else to be to blame as I only ever communicated to the Whatsapp number that he sent to me via PM through BHW.

Attached the initial payment discussion on May 8th, and then the last messages which he never responded to. I have everything else and payment info too if that would be of any use, but don't feel like upping everything here now, unless needed.

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