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Weirdo: Ppl just don't take gold when it's free

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Flask, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. Flask

    Flask Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    We've just have started sales of personal elite proxies (per day), but reviewers were delaying their review, so we decided to warm up our sales and support the community by giving some stuff for completely free here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-giveaway-get-your-free-vpn-proxy-3-days.html

    And you know what? Ppl just continue to order even smaller packages.
    They prefer to buy...
    What a crazy world)
     
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  2. Adrian112

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    Nothing is free.
     
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    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    You're offering 1 proxy for 3 days. It's not worth the trouble for me.

    A single proxy is something that takes work to use, it's not like picking up gold off the ground, it's like getting a job and they pay you. You need to do work for it to be useful.
     
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  4. Flask

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    It can be applied to almost anything in IM: YT views, FB likes, website views, reviews, landing pages, etc. These all are tools which somehow convert ppl to money
     
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    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I agree. Your post title says nobody is taking free gold. In reality you're not offering free gold, you're offering a pick axe and telling them to go find a creek, buy a gold pan and start digging for "free gold". You're providing a single tool that is useless without many other steps and "work".
     
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    Of course he is not, he is just looking for exposure by making this thread.
     
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    No offence but 3 days isn't long enough to conduct any sort of test.
    The only people you will attract are the freebie jumpers who claim anything/everything and they never buy anyway.
     
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    If I could offer something of value to you as a seller; offer a significantly larger freebie, one that would be used by someone that takes action, instead of one IP.

    Bhopkins is pretty spot on when he says that you are offering a pickax as those of us that us proxies use them in the bunches and one is more of a hassle than a benefit and a 3 day window is just silly for any kind of usage.

    I'm not even a big boy in the purchasing of proxies but I know that the sellers I do business with could make large boat payments on what I pay due to our usage so imagine what the real proxy users are spending and using.

    Rethink your offer and qualify the receivers and I bet you get a much better response as well as some reviews that would be a real help.
     
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  9. Flask

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    Agree, but I rather used the metaphora to refer to something valuable that ppl do not like to take if it's free.)
    It's like the well known story about T-shirts which were not sold for 10 bucks, and a manager increased a price instead of decreasing and banked hard.

    Maybe a bit, didn't consider that. Rather I wanted to ask if there are tools available to kick reviewers to make their job faster. But then I though it might be inappropriate and removed the question.
    As for the business, I'm too lazy/sleepy now to accept freebie requests so even if there will be anyone brave, I won't ship to them until tomorrow. I'd love to say that this is because freebies are freebies, and ppl should respect this.

    Just curious, how much time do you think is appropriate?
     
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    BassTrackerBoats, thanks for the good suggestion. If you were in my shoes, what would you offer?
     
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    To give somebody the opportunity to trial it properly, I would say 5-7 days would be fair.
    You will still get freebie hunters but if the service is good then people might stay.
    As BHopkins stated, it can take time to set up tools, run campaigns etc
     
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    For specifics I can't give you an answer that would be of any real benefit but I would be looking at the average proxy user out there... the guy that buys X amount to run his tools and target him.

    The guy that uses a small amount of proxies is not your sweet spot nor is the whale that uses a zillion, your target, seems to me, would be average user.

    Then I would give out for a month to several people that are reputable here that volume of proxies. I'm guessing it is less than 100 but that is a guess as I am 100% clueless; my end of our businesses that use proxies is the financial end and I'm not very technical so I rely on my partners who are quite technical.

    One month of free proxies to three average users that are reputable here would be my offering I believe... maybe 5 guys even if that is in your budget.
     
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    give people a month with a free proxy and then they will probably leave excellent reviews.3 days is not enough time to accomplish anything with a proxy,at least for me.
     
  14. Flask

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    Thanks, but the point here is to differentite. It is like room rent. Someone can rent for a month, other one can rent for 24 hours. These are two different stories. Renting for shirt times can be more effective in terms of money, but renting a hourly service for a month is way too expensive for ppl.
     
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    I would really love to hear what you accomplish with proxies in some general terms without niche and methods specifics. I know that if you want to build an identity and then simulate its activity (say, an Instagram bot), you probably want 1 IP for the whole month, but if you parse data and try to emulate multiple users, it's better to change IPs fast.
     
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    i'm a leecher and i find this offensive! 3 days for 1 ip? cmon! make it 7days lol JK *peace*

    parley? :D
     
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    He who laughs last, laughs longest.
    There's a difference between gold and rubbish.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/11064023/Gold-rush-on-Kent-beach-as-treasure-hunters-look-for-buried-bullion.html
    When real gold is of concern, people will no doubt take it! :D
     
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    Ah, had the exact same thought about the fact that if it were actual gold I'd take it, but as W130SN pointed out three days is a tad short period of time to properly test anything. Unless it's a new condom, that I can do in sec... Hours*.
     
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  19. Sugirl

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    YEAh thats a real gold- 1 proxy for 3days :D
     
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    You call your customers weird people hehe.