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Weird Domain Issue

Discussion in 'Domain Names & Parking' started by triggershot, Sep 30, 2009.

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  1. triggershot

    triggershot Registered Member

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    Recently I acquired two domains which were expiring and they were 5 and 2 years old each. Now I put things on them, but when I checked MS for their stats under Age there's a - . Normally this is indicative of a new domain but I know mine aren't, so idk what the problem is. Maybe they need some time to get indexed or something else?
     
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    age changes when owner changes unless transfer is done. you kee any seo or backlinks that were created however
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    thanks for the info
     
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    triggershot Registered Member

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    I don't think that 's right..because why else would people buy aged domains that are expiring or closeouts? I thought that as long as a site hasn't expired the age is kept?
     
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    most times no... a domain goes through certain phases when its changing owner due to the original not wanting to re-reg it. I will try to explain the process the exception and where AGE comes in are in bold.

    1) A domain name is registered for a fixed period of 1-10 years
    2) As the expiry/renewal date approaches, the owner of the domain name is sent one or more reminders that they must pay the domain name renewal fee
    3) If the domain name owner renews the name, then the domain name returns to its status in Stage 1)
    4) At the renewal date, since the domain name has not been paid for and the registration has run out, the domain name is put on hold. The domain's nameserver information is deleted or modified to point to the registrar's homepage or to a page explaining that the domain name in question has expired.
    Another effect of the "hold" being placed upon a domain name is that the domain name is no longer transferable to another registrar (for example, one with a lower renewal fee!)
    5) Most registrars have a "grace period" (sometimes detailed explicitly on their site or by email, oftentimes applied without comment) after domain names have expired.
    During that grace period, the original owner of the domain name can pay to renew their domain name (and hence remove it from "on hold" status and reactivate it). Some registrars may impose an additional administrative "penalty fee" to renew domain names during their grace period. If the domain name owner renews the name during the grace period, then the name returns to Stage 1)
    6) At the end of the grace period, the existing owner can no longer renew their domain name and has lost all control over it. What happens next depends on the registrar...
    Some registrars will delete the name immediately following the end of the grace period. (this is why age doesnt always transfer) Some will hold it for a certain additional time-period before releasing it. And some will change the ownership information on the domain name so that it becomes registered to the "Unpaid Names Department" or similar, and continue to hold the name for an extended period of time before it is finally deleted..(these regester often try to sell it themselves during this point.)Once a domain name has reached
    Stage 6), it is about to return to the domain market i.e. it will once more become available for registration. If the domain name is considered valuable, there may be many interested parties lining up to try and grab it i.e. to attempt to secure it as it is deleted. Here if you are quick enough to get before the whois deletion propagates is when you keep the creation date.




    Also even if you the whois info is gone completly.. and you end up buying a "new domain" any existing backlink or alexa traffic reports should stay. meaning someone else has already done half the battle for you..


    All the above assumption came from SEO books. SEO is not an exact science .. hopefully this helped.






     
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    triggershot Registered Member

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    Thanks for the thorough answer IamNomad, but in this particular case the WHOis records are intact when I check through godaddy and it says the domain in question was first registered in 2004, then modified (when I bought it) and the expiry date next year. But when I check in market samurai it doesn't for some reason...