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Weird about PBN after penguin 4.0

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Fear2403, Jan 2, 2017.

  1. Fear2403

    Fear2403 Power Member

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    I have no ideas about PBN after the updated.Seem it does not pass any juice to the money site.I build about 20 new PBN and test on my two money site(easy and medium competition kw).They have very good backlink profiles(>50rd and have at least 5-10 do-follow contextual links from authority site like this
    http://prnt.sc/c1t7ek
    http://prnt.sc/c51red
    ), clean anchor text and history.
    I build it on premium hosting and use handwritten content...., and they got indexed very well, but I can't see any movement after 3 months.In the past, I saw the movement after only 1-3 week.

    Has anyone the same situation?I read somewhere that Google stops pass juice from the domain that has many 301 redirects to homepage...
     
  2. hippo123

    hippo123 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Did you over optimize your anchor? Try diluting your anchor text and see if you got rankings increased
     
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  3. Fear2403

    Fear2403 Power Member

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    Thanks mate.I will try it, but on the second site that have low competition KW I use only brand , generic and partial match anchor text.On the first site, exact match anchor text is high a bit because i follow the ratio of sites on 1st page.
     
  4. bartosimpsonio

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    A PBN has got to look natural. If it looks like a PBN, then Google knows about it.
     
  5. RayBay

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    +1 for reducing kws in anchors. This has helped me in several projects.
     
  6. asap1

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    Its definitely taking much longer, are the post on the PBN indexed?

    Also dont use a 301 plugin.

    1. Its a https://blog.easyblognetworks.com/2015/causes-for-pbn-blogs-deindexation-backed-by-data/.
    2. Its useless, google does not pass any link juice if you 301 a dead page. Its a soft 404.

    You need to either recreate the page then 301 it or just leave the page how it is after your recreate it.
     
  7. Fear2403

    Fear2403 Power Member

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    Yes, the post is indexed.Can you explain more?Do you mean restore old content for that page?Thanks
     
  8. pbbiet123

    pbbiet123 Newbie

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    Mostly the domain you show in screenshot are spammed to death and used in previous network you will be extremely lucky to find a domain without spam of such good links.

    Its possible the money site you are using may have 0 effect even after such powerful domains in your network due to some penalty, like pagespeed or other factors. Try linking to other domains and see if they show any improvement.
     
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    Sorry for offtopic but where do you get such domains? :) I am kind of awestuck with the snapshot.
     
  10. Fear2403

    Fear2403 Power Member

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    I bought it from the auction, not expired domains.They all clean.
     
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  11. pbbiet123

    pbbiet123 Newbie

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    That may have costed a fortune I guess!
     
  12. Fear2403

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    Thanks.should i change from exact match to partial match or brand/generic?Thanks
     
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    Are you sure of that ? Have you made some test ? Cause I have the exact opposite opinion.
     
  14. Sristy

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    Something is not right. Those domains have way too powerful backlinks to not rank any money site. It seem to be either anchor text ratio or other issues with your money site. There are way too many variables at play, not possible to comment without getting into more details of your niche/money site.
     
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  15. pbbiet123

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    That whole thing about optimizing anchors is stupid at best. There are upteen number of sites that ranks pretty well even after over anchor usage and some site that ranks without any proper anchor usage.

    You should use exact anchors on most powerful links and partial/generic/full line anchors on other sites. Google devalued anchor usage and mostly rank your sites based upon your content. Thats how they decide the relevancy to the keyword.

    Otherwise if I want to tank a site I will buy a sitewide footer link on some forum at cheap prices or blogroll link and due to single anchor Google will penalize the domain.

    There are many homemade guru's who churn out new theories in free time like this anchor text over optimization and what not but trust me google is not so stupid, before every algo update they take every singe case into consideration.

    There are some fancy words that users throw on every forum and thread like this anchor optimization or buying premium hosting, you can always link it to real world and see how normal webmaster do the things, bloggers do that things and not SEO. This way you will keep your site more natural.

    You are wasting your money on premium hosting too. You can even start own hosting server its pretty cheap and very easy to go for instead of buying some fancy hosting where other SEO are hosting there sites and if someone get caught flagging all the ips associated with it.
     
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    Normally you will get the result with in 3 months. But don't lose your hope. After last update from Google some strange things happening to every one.

    Use drip feed methods to build backlink. Concentrate the Anchor text. My suggestion is don't use generic words
     
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  17. pbbiet123

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    Exactly my thoughts, I was about to comment about anchors but since author said its clean so left it out. We dont really see a domain like that sold in public.
     
  18. Fear2403

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    The first site ranked on the first page before i push link from this new network.The second site is 3 month old but target very easy kw.
    Anchor text for 1st site is pretty high now cause i follow the ratio of sites on 1st page.I think i will try reducing ration for exact match kw.
     
  19. onlinemarketnow

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    Not only link from PBN but whatever link you push, I have seen it taking much longer time than as usual.

    btw, your pbn domain looks so good.
     
  20. asap1

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    Yes restore the page, you dont have to use the same content tho. Just build a page on that exact url.

    Yes im 100% sure.