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We got off on the wrong foot. Let's try again. (Hosting Affiliate Journey)

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by jasgrey, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. jasgrey

    jasgrey Junior Member

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    Yep. I'm doing it. This thread is happening.

    I have another thread here. I began trying to build an income with PPD but ran into many problems along the way. I finally came to the realization that if I want to build something, I should offer a quality service and create something that will last. So why not attempt to profit from something I do every single day? Web design.


    The History:
    I am 24, from Texas, and have a baby girl on the way in late October. In 2009 I got into IM after my father had great success in SEO. I never had that success, but have made a little money from it over the years. I've been toying with Photoshop for about ten years now, but I've never really done anything more than tinkering. That being said, I have had some great feedback on my latest work. I've already explained my background in my other thread so I want to keep this simple so I'm not being too repetitive.


    The Plan:
    The idea is to offer free web design services to businesses in need. I will monetize this by requiring my clients to use my hosting to get their free design. My price will be either $35 monthly, or $175 for the entire year, which boils down to $14.59 per month. Either way, I will stand to make $175+ on each design, the first option will just pay out slower, but more.

    I can bust out a design in 8-14 hours. And I am more than willing to spend 14-16 hours a day working for that money. If I can manage to make two sales a week, I will make more than a minimum wage job. (A minimum wage job is all I can get in the town I currently reside in. 4,000 people. Mostly seniors. Nothing but fast food and convenience stores here.)

    That being said, I am not the best at CSS and I know nothing of JavaScript. So I have teamed up with my partner from Coders Point who will be doing the coding of all my web sites for $35 each, making my profit $140 for yearly subscriptions, and still substantially more for month to month clients.

    (The month to month plan will become cheaper after 6-9 months. It will most likely drop to the $14.59 per month price.)

    The Action:
    I have already created my website. You may find it at hxxp://w3.neodism.com. (If this is against the rules to post, please warn me or remove my link. I have a Twitter set up, and also a Facebook page. I am going to run a Facebook ad campaign with my $50 credit from GoDaddy, beginning tomorrow.

    I am using Facebook mainly (and Twitter as a substitute) to find small businesses with ravished websites. Currently, I have not contacted any of them. I will begin doing this first thing in the morning when I wake at around 9am. I intend to contact 100 businesses minimum each day via Facebook. Reason being, businesses are more prompt to check their Facebook because it is a marketing outlet for them. Small and local businesses do not deploy email as a marketing tactic very often and usually would only expect spam in their inbox anyways.

    I have posted one ad on a buy, sell, trade group with 10,000 members on Facebook, but to no avail. Also, through another project I am helping a friend with (that nets me only $50/month +100ml of vape fluid) I have attained a list of 718 vape store owner's emails that I will use. I will send them each a personal message after taking a look at their website.

    Craigslist is an option, as well. I just don't know how to use it to my benefit yet. I don't know where to post.


    The Grand Finale:
    My baby is coming and I spend every moment from I wake until I sleep thinking about how I am going to provide for her. Not only that, I've been taking action by getting everything set up. I feel terrible that my love is so innocent and damn cute and I can't even give her the things she needs, such as a house with a nursery for the baby. The things I promised seven months ago that I would make sure were taken care of. I've minimalized my bills, even shut off my cell phone, so that I could do my best to make her humblest of dreams become a reality. Unfortuntately, payments usually take 60+ days from hosting affiliates. But hey, maybe we will be in the money within a short time after the baby comes!

    Bla bla bla, this is my journey. Let's hope it works out better than PPD. Sorry if a new thread was too much. I just couldn't continue on a PPD journey thread doing hosting affiliate sales.
     
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  2. wnateg

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    Good luck. Your heart is in the right place, so I think you will succeed if you stick to it.

    I especially like that you are sticking to one method. It's good to not put your eggs in one basket, but it is also good to not spread yourself too thin. I also like the website.

    I have programming experience with PHP and HTML, so if you need any help with that send me a pm.

    One suggestion I have is to contact local businesses that don't have a website or one that is really bad. Make an appearance and woo them.

    Good luck!
     
  3. webmaze

    webmaze Registered Member

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    awesome.. hoping to learn sth from your journey.. :)
     
  4. arganrecords

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    I hope you can reach your goal, REALLY! You're a good boy and your idea is genius (simple but I've never thinked about it). So take update this journey so I can follow it and maybe I can begin it with you but not selling graphics, maybe othe type of services.
     
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    Good luck with your journey and congrats for your baby
     
  6. AmateRasu

    AmateRasu Power Member

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    you should read about 7878 method ;) mixing your method with 7878 method will get you leads for sure. BTW why not just install WP themes to them ?
     
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    So if i want to checkout your work on your website i have to download it? You need to fix that.
     
  8. Commoner

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    Hi Pal,

    This is the right mindset and attitude, all the best!
     
  9. damagesmith

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    Do you do E-com sites?
     
  10. arganrecords

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  11. GringoMonkey

    GringoMonkey Regular Member

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    Why don't you set up your own hosting company, using for example a hostgator reselling account, that way they pay you each year for hosting and you can also offer updates to their site.

    I had quite a successful business doing that for restaurant websites.
     
  12. arganrecords

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    I thinked about it but there is to setup a reseller site, find customers, promote the activity and have a minimum knowelage of hosting system (so IP, technical issues etc). There is customer support to provide, explain to customers probelms and so on. I think it's time consuming.
     
  13. jasgrey

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    Never heard of the 7878 method. I'll do some research.

    Furthermore, everyone and their dog can set up WordPress if it's a one click install. What I offer is a 100% free, 100% hand-made custom web design to fit the needs of the business. Not some cookie-cutter template, and not some stupid crap like Wix.

    I've gotta figure something out for a portfolio. I may change that link to my Facebook where I share my work.


    Unfortunately, I am keeping it to basic sites. Even if I knew how to do PSD to OpenCart or something similar, it would take days to get it done, I believe. So I wouldn't do that for just the $100 commission I'll be getting. I am, though, designing an e-commerce template for my partner at LocalVapes.us. Fortunately for me, I don't have to do the coding. Just the design.


    I'll check it out soon! Good luck!


    I thought this over. But I need the $100 in 60 days, rather than $20 a month for the next year. I don't think I could sell a business on spending a year's worth of hosting up front. The idea is to offer something that won't hurt their budget at all. I get them to sign up for a new hosting package for $5 or so bucks a month and get the big payout from the host.

    I am still thinking about it a little bit, though. It would require start-up costs because hosts usually charge a set up fee for reseller hosting. And I would have to create a whole new site for the hosting company, and I think I may have to put it on an e-commerce platform. I don't really know.
     
  14. GringoMonkey

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    It is up to you, but you are mistaken in it being more work.

    You have to get the customers for your web design and you are asking them to sign up to a Hosting account, just direct them to yours instead of someone like Hostgator. Infact Hostgator offer a reseller package where they do everything for you.

    Once you run their Hosting you can offer them all sorts of extras. Why do you think Hosting companies payout such large affiliate fees?
     
  15. arganrecords

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    Yes there are money in this but it's another kind of work and I don't want to take money from customers because they want the support, they want changes, they want a lot of thing and I'm alone in this business, I can't stay to answer to anyone.
     
  16. jasgrey

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    HostGator and all the other hosts offer hosting for less than $10 a month. If we aren't good enough sales people to upsell our clients, then $10/month isn't even worth my time. 100 clients to make $1,000 a month? No thanks.

    If, though, I could sell the design in a package with hosting for about $34.99/month, then I think I would do that. But that's sales and that's what I'm trying to stay away from. I want to offer something free, something they can't refuse. Small businesses will tell you they have no budget or money to spare if you are trying to sell them something. If you're giving them something and just part of the deal is that they use your host, I feel like it'll be easier to "sell."

    By the way, can anyone link me to this 7878 method?
     
  17. jasgrey

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    I found 7878's method. It's intriguing, but it seems costly. I have very little money to invest. I may see if I can scrounge up some funds and try it, though. I found wholesale dice on Alibaba for $4.13/100 with free shipping. It's an option.

    The more I think about it, reselling hosting to my clients does seem more profitable. As it currently is, I stand to make $75 after 60 days of selling free website. If I were to do reseller and set my monthly price at $34.99/mo, I can make basically the same amount after three months of having them on my hosting (considering that the first month's payment will go to my friend at Coders Point), and then more in the following months. I may do $34.99 for the first 6 months (to cover the design work) and then $19.99 thereafter to retain their business.

    I do not know how to set up a website for reseller hosting, though. Maybe do it all manually and not have a site for hosting, just my design site. Then, if I have a business that wants the free design and is willing to pay the hosting, I can manually set it up in the reseller backend after payment has been received. (Thoughts?)
     
  18. arganrecords

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    Sorry mate, please link the method 7878 of reselling hosting in this way we can know, if you can't publish it here please send it on my primate inbox :)
     
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  20. GringoMonkey

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    Your misunderstanding reseller hosting...

    1. You set up a reseller hosting package with for example Hostgator.
    2. You say to your clients you provide design service for them and say they have to host with yourhostname.com to get it free.
    3. You say they have to pay annually upfront for the hosting to get the free design.
    4. You host their site with Hostgator reseller package - your hosting service will then just be the same as Hostgator as it is actually using their servers just with your domain.
    5. You set up free design on yourhostname.com.
    6. After they have paid for the hosting and had free design you offer them paid extras.
    7. Even if they buy no extras in 12 months time they pay you annual hosting again.
     
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