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Wanna live in Netherlands!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by W1tty, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. W1tty

    W1tty Junior Member

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    Hello BHW team:)

    Especially Hi:cool: to users from Holland.
    Since childhood I dream to visit Holland and more, to live in Holland. Please, suggest me, what can I do, for this, what should I do to become a citizen of the Netherlands?
    May be you know some programs, grants for people like me?) Now i live in Ukraine. I wanted to go study in Holland, but it's very expensive, more than 5000 euro, and I do not have that kind of money.

    Will be happy to find friends from Holland, to communicate, may be to work.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. stharthjw6j

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    I love Holland, good luck :)
     
  3. TheUnborn

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    Maybe some members from Holland here can help you out
     
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  4. Drignity

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    Holland is good, I'll also go in few months for study
     
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  5. W1tty

    W1tty Junior Member

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    Really? You should be happy)) It's very expensive. What profession?
     
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    I'm Dutch! Look here! www newtoholland nl
     
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    I also have contacts to get you a (simple) temporary job.
     
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    Great place I try to get out there once or twice a year, chilled out and relaxed country with very good people, plus they know how to throw one hell of a party! :p
     
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  10. SirSmash

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    If you want to become a citizen, good luck. They're laws are basically ancient to the point where you'll have quite a hard time unless you're a male and your father was a natural born; in that particular case you're pretty much guaranteed citizenship. If you're the daughter? Nope... Mother was born there, dad wasn't? Nope.

    And I would visit first, seriously... it's not as great as TV and movies portray. My family is from Leiden and it's a nice country but it's got problems like everywhere else on the planet. You also got to remember when you visit, you're on vacation, daily life isn't going to be as nice. I also suspect the size of everything would annoy you, I was born here in the United States, my parents are from there, and while a nice country... everything, and I mean everything, is so freaking small in that country. I like being able to take a piss in a bathroom that isn't below the staircase so I can stand straight without bonking my head; mind you this was in what they consider a house... Flats are smaller. I like not having to measure the cars I buy based on the driveway width, that's between two homes, so you literally won't fit if it's too large. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad country... My business is incorporated there so I save a few bucks on taxes, but personally... not sure I'd want to live there. Vacations are awesome though.
     
  11. W1tty

    W1tty Junior Member

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    Thank you!

    Yes, but I have home:) Just, want to go out of here...

    Really big big thanks to SirSmash for very usefull comment and advice!
     
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    It's fun out here, if you need information you can PM me :)
     
  13. koolbrian

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    I am living in Holland for around 3 years now. I agree most of the stuffs SirSmash said is true but there are exceptions. You see, in Amsterdam, accommodation is really expensive, I am paying like 1,700 Euro per month for an aprt. around 100 sq meter. So hope you can understand. Two reasons for this highly expensive accommodation are, first, they don't want too many people living in the city or near city center of Amsterdam, second, they preserve the old buildings build around the canal rings and there is no chance they are going to demolish them to build high rise apartment buildings.

    I am also looking forward to apply for Citizenship here but it would take me 2 more years before I can apply. In short, you have to live here as a permanent resident for five years, you will have to learn Dutch language and about their culture, then you can apply and after passing an exam they will grant you permission. For living as a permanent resident, there are a few ways like you can be a student and get a job after completion of study or you can look for a job here and your employer can arrange for the PR.

    Finally, if you are desperate, you can look for a refuge status which is not to tough because people here are very much kind, liberal. For that, you will have to enter the country somehow and contact the local authorities, there are some dedicated organizations who provides all sorts of assistance for this procedure.

    I am from a very small poor country so everything feels great here to me. I have visited Poland which is kind of structured like Russia, Ukraine - large expanded cities, wide roads, huge parks, tall buildings - so I can imagine everything will look smaller here but I can assure you, you will love it, specially the Dutch people are really good helpful people.
     
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    Holland is an amazing place.. Goodluck
     
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    Amsterdam is fantastic. I can understand people wanting to live there!
     
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    I live in Amsterdam for over a year. The city is amazing, is small enough to get everything on the bike, but big enough to have a feeling you don't miss anything (and you don't).

    the architecture of the city is breath-taking as well as (in my opinion) a high quality of life.
    Speaking about granting permission, you don't have to be afraid, many of my friends are from Australia, so they have to pass them. But - none of them haven't had any troubles is them. Many of them said it is a joke (I've no experience with those tests though).

    The downside are cost of living. The mentioned 500EUR is enough for renting a room 30-45 minutes out of the city (by tram).
    Living in the city center (inside the ring) is like 1500-2000EUR per month for a studio apartment, 2 bed rooms if lucky (of course the price varies and depends on many factors).

    Good luck to you!
     
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    you should act faster before national mobilization kicks in ukraine
     
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    i'm living my whole life in the south of the Netherlands. In Eindhoven (maybe you know it from the company philips) If you've got some questions, you can always send them or pm me
     
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    I hear its a very expensive place. Car insurance costs 100s of euros a month, gas prices sky high, and smokes close to 10 euros. Can't believe people go there to smoke pot cos its legal there, no news on the costs at the coffee shops though. Food is expensive and rents are high too. I had Europe in mind for a long time, but now I think USA or CA.

    But if it has been your dream from childhood, costs shouldn't really come in the way.
     
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    I'm thinking about going to study there hopefully in the future.