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Untraceable Money

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by vulpes, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. vulpes

    vulpes Newbie

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    Hey guys!
    This is a hypothetical situation, we are studying several cases and I've developed one that is quite interesting.


    I have an account with $$$$ money online, and I want trasnferir this money to my account without a trace.


    1 Buy a VPN with false identity through the VPN use a proxy (proxypn?).


    2 Through the VPN buy BitCoins through the account that has $$$$ money online.


    3 Use the Mixer Bitcoin (BitMixer?), and scramble to remove any trace of the money.


    4 Ship shuffled money to another wallet in anonther country.


    5 Seeing the BitCoins myself in a personal account on BitMarket.


    6 Retiro money via Paypal, send to my personal account.


    questions:
    a. With this structure you believe that money would be untraceable?
    b. Where can I buy and sell Bitcoins with agility, because I can not lose much value for money?
    C. You must purchase a paid VPN, or would a free account? Maybe just use the TOR would be enough?
     
  2. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Why would you run a case study like this?

    What end purpose does it serve?
     
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  3. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Hahha Case study lol
     
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  4. wizard04

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    Money laundering for the mafia...very very good niche.
     
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  5. JoeMongan

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    I already see a massive flaw but I am not helping you with your "case study" mkay ;)
     
  6. vulpes

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    I don't understand why are you guys so mad.
    I'm not laundering money, the account with $$$ is my account, I'm studying about BitCoin and stealth wallets.
    I did not know that knowledge was crime...

    Anyway, thank you all for replying, but is not a request is just some questions.

    Edit: I think that i posted in the wrong forum, please any moderator, can close or delete this topic plz.
     
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  7. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Thanks for the lies, Chief, now go take on the day.
     
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    Trust me we are not mad. Point is there's only a couple of reasons to make money disappear
    and just about every niche that needs this solution is not allowed on the forum. Also your first
    post/thread being this just throws up a huge red flag.

    -RK
     
  9. Trepanated

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    It always makes me chuckle when people think TOR makes them untraceable.

    If I was the government and I wanted to find people who had something to hide, do you know what I would do?

    I'd look at everyone who installed a TOR Browser
     
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    Yeah right "posted in the wrong forum", its like going in the wrong house, take a shit in the toilet and realize that you are in the wrong house.
     
  11. nyvp1

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    Unfortunately the government is a lot smarter than that.
    Your on your own.
     
  12. th0m4s

    th0m4s Regular Member

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    They already do ;)
     
  13. Trepanated

    Trepanated Supreme Member

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    I know.

    That was my point.
     
  14. vulpes

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    Ok Guys!
    Thank you and sorry, i don't mean to be rude.
    Just forget it, i will try to find this.
     
  15. jaymank

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    Nothing is untraceable.
     
  16. Falrish

    Falrish Regular Member

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    No matter what you do it will be able to be traced. Some times it is just more work to get the trace done. If you throw up a lot of hoops for people to jump through it only makes the time it takes to get caught a little longer. Laundering Money is not Blackhat, it is Illegal.
     
  17. virtualpurity

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    Nothing is untraceable especially Bitcoins since all the transactions are publicly visible and saved, but the good thing with them is that they give you a plausible deniability option.

    And to the user above about TOR, beside all the attempts from the government to crack the TOR network infect and intercept nodes and node traffic etcc until this day TOR remains one of the best options when it comes to anonymity.
     
  18. Saviour

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    so many loopholes in here