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U2bviews Scamming Referrals?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by BigBadWolff, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. BigBadWolff

    BigBadWolff Regular Member

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    Well, its true, i know its true, because I can easily be
    bringing in 5-6 referrals a day to this BS referral program
    would love to here what they have to say about this.

    My referrals have been stuck at 9 I have two websites
    that bring in 200+ targeted leads every day yet none
    of my referrals are processing. This is Bullshit. And my
    views lately have been shitty.

    Would love to hear from the admin from there see what
    you guys have to say about this.

    Please note, if you guys dont start fixing sht there I
    will make sure everyone knows whats going on. Plus
    you fags banning me from the forum for bringing up
    the fact DJlobo was selling accounts and credits on
    fiverr. Thats BS too.

    I am a frequent user of this site and I share a lot of
    fkin bandwidth and send lotrs of traffic daily to this
    website for referrals. Seems like a big fkn waste of
    time if all you guys gonna be doing is scamming referrals
    and views from the users.
     
  2. izSpK

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    Wow man, if what you're saying is true... that's pretty fucked up.
     
  3. Baraba

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    u2bviews has placed Google AdSense adverts in the videos management page. Google can use this data to detect people who are using the system and ban their adsense accounts.
     
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  4. TastyTeo

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    I have 211 Referrals, you must be mistaken
     
  5. djlobo

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    what scaming? comon dude, if i added the option for you guys to purchase credits would it also be a scam? its the same way if i sell it outside or inside of the site, (wich is not of you concern) think wisely before you talk about things you dont know, a scam would be something that promisses X and deliverys Y yet the site has been growing since their new system and providing ALLOT of daily views (right now even more then vagex (sometimes), reaching around 100 to 150 views per day), PLUS it now provides an feature that you cant even find on vagex, custom comments, these are never flagged as spam (like enhnaceviews) and yet they are delivered pretty fast on your video, we bring allot of features into the site so you guys can use it, and... its free.. and what is your payback? talking bad about an free site that take effort to provide you new features every week.... so i dont know what is your problem, is it because i sell credits outside of u2bviews?, it would be the same if i sold inside of the site, i just prefer to sell it outside, the site is free dude, you use it for your OWN BENEFICT, not because you are trying to help, but to help yourself on your own youtube videos, dont giveme that excuse that "we are working for you", no, you are working FOR YOU, not for me.

    regarding the referrals, u2bviews have placed filters on the way that referrals are counted on this contest, that will only count ACTIVE and LEGIT accounts, people have been registering fake accounts in there using proxys in order to get the prizes, so we had to implement ways of checking if an account is legit or not, plus another note, referrals will ONLY COUNT from the day of the start of this contest, and not the "All time" referrals on your account.
    (just dont put your referral link and force a click, explain instead how the site works, so they know and when they register on it they start using, as soon as the account you referred get some litle credits, its active and if legit it will count as an valid referrer)


    You have been banned from the forums by one of my moderators because he felt that you were trying to harm u2bviews with a post that doesnt had any cense or any true on it. (like an vagex fan boy would do), people is trying to harm u2bviews with an "reputation" of 2/3 months ago, u2bviews changed ALLOT since this last month (almost two months),more daily views like the old days, favorites, likes, subscribers, and plus CUSTOM COMMENTS.
    like i told you the site is free, and i work my ass off everyday on it plus i spend allot of money paying for coders to do major coding that i cant do myself... this... to delivery you an FREE SITE, and you try to take me down because i try to monetize the site in order to pay that stuff and have a bit for myself???

    -on vagex if you want to add more then 5 videos... you need to pay,
    -on vagex if you want to use an feature on their site (60+seconds on video)... you need to pay
    -on vagex if you referrer someone and want to get 15% of their earnings... you need to pay(and you are referrering to the site, you are helping the site and yet you need to pay in order to help, ridicoulous)
    -on vagex ,they sell MILLIONS of credits daily under your eyes, that yes harms their ratio allot since there is no people to watch the videos, dont be foled that they can delivery you 100 views per day, from 5000 credits that you place you end up getting like 1500/2500 views max, they are making it a cash machine on things that dont need to be sold (like: you need to have an paypal subscription in order to add more then 5 videos)


    the way im monetizing the site, DOESNT HARM THE SITE ITSELF, plus i dont place any site limitations in exchange of money to unblock them like vagex does, the site its 100% free and dont come bullshit on me, its is WORKING, i have test videos runing on my own, and the insight stats dont lie, i check these daily, and im getting 100 to 150 steady views on fresh new videos.( i have provided proof of these stats days ago here on this forum, another member have also posted on this forum an picture of their daily stats ) (Ps: i only boost videos one time per week )

    Keep in mind also that servers COST MONEY, coders COST MONEY, and the site is working and providing you features that you can find anywhere else such as custom comment and an firefox addon that can give you tons of credits in short amount of time.

    Baraba, im going to remove the adsense from the my videos page and move it to somewhere else, althought adsense wouldnt harm any of the users videos or accounts (i asure you that, anyways im going to move it so you feel tranquilized )

    im SO SORRY about my english gramar, im pretty nervous while writing this because some vagexfanboys are "chasing" me and trying to harm my effort based on facts of 2/3 months ago, if someone is the "bad guy that is exploiting money" here is not u2bviews but yes vagex. (just look at the points stated above)


    feel free to private message me if you want to continue this conversation and if you feel that is something wrong that would need to be changed, im not commenting on this post anymore.
     
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  6. tube-diva

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    Sir,

    I don't know where you are coming from but YouTube is a USA enterprise and American law rules. You keep on telling your customers U2BVIEWS is a free service, therefore tough luck! What if YouTube decides to delete accounts arbitrarily just because they are free? I suggest that you visit Wikipedia and educate yourself about the legal doctrine of THE BARTER SYSTEM.

    For instance, you and I enter into an agreement to which I paint your door in exchange for you washing my car. If I do my part and you renege on yours, you would be in breach of an enforceable barter contract or theft of services for failure to settle accounts. It is just like hiring help and then refusing to pay. Accordingly, your data shows that I spent 418 hours opening your site to rake-up 33,110 views in 17 days or 1,947 views/day for the benefit your clients. So you also have 17 days to have your clients rake-up 33,110 views. But at your rate of 100/day it will take almost a year!

    Since you also sell 5000 credits at fiverr for $5.00, settle some accounts with cash, even at a bad ratio. That is one of the facts that you failed to mention while trashing VAGEX 10+ times in that one can redeem unused credits for cash. As for your celebrated custom comments, tell me how much YouTube pays for those instead of views? For one, YouTube has been cited for having the most hateful comments on the net! Just one racist comment can ruin any comments investment. Try to figure out why you have so many disgruntled clients. This is real and not about "a vagex boy" as you put it.
     
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  7. izSpK

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    I hate to join in on this conversation, but why the heck are you bashing Vagex like that, djlobo? Why not go bash other services that actually suck?

    I can post a thread RIGHT now showing how Viewet rips you off like crazy if I wanted to, but I will keep that information safe until I really need to use it. Brainstorming (aka. MoneyMakerCrazy, MillionaireMindset, Nick Bradley, CountStacula) is banned so I don't really want to post it without seeing his reaction to it.

    Also djlobo, Vagex actually delivers fast to be a view4view system, unlike u2bviews. Spend that time you were using to bash Vagex to actually make your thing good.
     
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  8. BigBadWolff

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    The facxt is I had I had alot of referrals on the
    leaderboard and not one of those were proxy. I know because those were all people
    I know who were looking fort youtube views. And should any of those people whom
    joined through my referral come back to the system and start using it, where did my
    referrals go. I dont get credit for them using the system. Instead my referrals become
    ghost and I lose them.

    Second, I am not sure how this turned into a vagex comparison. Actually let me enlighten
    you on Vagex's support. Which is a million times better than yours guys, whom you ban
    people for stating REAL FACTS! If I was making up lies then sure i could understand a
    ban but these are not lies. You were selling u2b accounts on fiverr which
    is supposed to be against the rules and also throws off the ratio.

    Then you guys start removing my referrals which is BS because I can bet 100% of my
    referrals not one of them were PROXY! and I can prove it because I actually know those
    people who joined.

    The fact is I spend hours and hours supporting the system, yet the only one who abuses
    the system is you mr LOBO. I have no proboem wiht you making money off it, but how
    are others supposed to make money off it as well if your the only one who can instantly
    sell credits wihtout running any viewers in the background to gain credits. The ratio
    just doesnt cut it. The fact is, I lost a shit load of referrals and I was stating pure facts.
    And you selling those 20,000 fiverr views is terrible. You do not contribute to the view
    system physcially. We the users run our viewers in the background completing your fiverr
    gigs for you.

    So your guys software that falsly flags referrals as proxys is wrong, how do you guys
    fix that?

    Still unsure why your bringing vagex into this thread lol

    Ive supported u2bviews more than vagex for your info. Your missing the whole point
    of the thread.Your taking this as a personal attack and making this into a dick
    measuring contest lol

    you guys want a better solution that doesnt compromise peoples real referrals.
    Run you guys bot on inavtive accounts and apparent proxy created accounts at the
    end of the contest and not during. because your bot is not making the right removals!

    Atleast then you guys can determine which referrals are actually real. Other wise by
    removing the referrals now, you potentially stealing referrals from people because you
    are removing them, what if these people come back and use the system especially since
    all my referrals ARE REAL. I dont need to cheat to win, I have over 4 years IM experience
    I like a challenge and also a little competition. I dont need to cheat to win.
     
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  9. tube-diva

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    It baffles me how one person can scam so many people for so long. Such is typical human behavior of denial, nobody wants to face reality that he is dumb enough to get scammed so easily. So they keep on believing that random views that are delivered by YouTube organically came from U2BVIEWS. But like they say, you can fool some people some of the time but never all people all the time. I was lucky to catch these bogus tactics after a few days.

    In my case I panicked during the YouTube counter freeze, so I sought help from U2BVIEWS with a total of 1000 credits. Soon after, the YouTube counter dumped the frozen views and fooled the U2BVIEWS flawed system as if 1000 views have been delivered by them. But mister, you said that you deliver about 100 views/day, hence, this gig should last about 10 days. If 1000 views magically appear, you are either a scammer or you own a crappy system.
     
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    I don't have a dog in this race but, for the record, I've been around for a while and I've never known djlobo to be a scammer. In fact, he's always been above board on this forum about u2bviews (it's shortcomings and it's strengths).

    This whole thing smells of a simple misunderstanding to me.

    Personally, I haven't used u2bviews in a while. I could never get the new viewer to work when it was launched and, to be honest, I just haven't got around to trying it again. I never did reach out to djlobo to help with it, so it's more my issue than his, most likely. But, I was a regular member of the site for well over a year prior to that and the only issue I ever had, djlobo corrected it quickly and to my satisfaction.

    It is a free site and how he chooses to monetize it shouldn't really be any of our concern, for what it's worth. That having been said, if there's an issue of referrals not being credited, I'm sure he'd happily resolve it were it not for this flaming.

    I'm just sayin' I don't think he deserves the pile-on here without an opportunity to correct whatever issues the OP may be having.
     
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    Since the new update, u2bviews is performing better than Vagex..IMO
     
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    I am glad that you speak for yourself and that you don?t have a dog in this fight but my dog is that initially I purchased 5000 credits at feverr for $5. After the sale, the instructions came that in order to use the credits, I have to register with a site called U2BVIEWS. I have 100% proof that U2BVIEWS redeemed my credits against my own frozen views that I accumulated long before joining U2BVIEWS.

    If I knew that the views-trader also owns the site, I would have had to run for the hills since this a classic case of self-dealing. But to me the issue is not the $5 lost but the cavalier attitude over legitimate concerns while blaming it on vagex boys. This is not a personal attack but a public service issue. He needs to address his clients concerns politely before someone gets mad and reports his site to YouTube.

    If U2BVIEWS is blacklisted by Google, anyone who used his services may go down with him.
     
  13. djlobo

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    im not trying to compare vagex or trying to make it look like is bad, im just stating the fact that everyone is picking up on my because i sell some miserable 5000 credits while vagex sells MILLIONS (literaly) of credits PER DAY under your eyes and i dont see you guys trying to talk about them, i even didnt state the fact that they give you credits just to play games, if we are
    talking about ratio then that is horrible since people dont watch videos at all...
    BUT, lets forget vagex and AGAIN do not put me on the boat were im trying to make vagex look bad, im just suprised how people try to make my free service look bad while your FAVORITE service (vagex) is doing worse on your back's.


    regarding the referral stuff, im sorry that i had to apply strong filters in the way the referrers are checked, however this is because some people had been creating accounts ones after others just to get the 5.000.000 credits, so i had to implement this filters, anwyays, if you referrer people and they use their account (and if its not under an proxy) it will be counted, ofcourse you might understand that we dont need people that registers and dont uses the accounts at all, if they register and use it before the contest ends it will still be counted as an referrer.

    i also saw somewhere in this post where people complains that 100 to 200 views per day are bad, at these days on youtube these amount of views are actualy pretty good for an traffic exchange system, other sites are providing similar amounts, so i cant see the problem on that.

    im not going to teel this because i own u2bviews but... -> listen to this guy, im not bluffing at all, at this moment the site is providing fast and more views per day just to dont count on the new and EXCLUSIVE features that are coming EVER WEEK, oh but ofcourse... i still to be the "bad guy" just because u2bviews had an bad time 3 months ago, YET,remember -> i didnt GAVE UP, and at this moment it is providing 100 to 200 views per day, and again, YET, i still to be the bad guy because i sell credits in order to pay servers, pay coders. :/ i seriously cant understand some of you, im not being sarcastic, seriously, i cant...

    (ps: there is more chances of vagex being "blacklisted" by google then u2bviews, as vagex is more popular at this moment, still dont understand what you mean by "blacklisted" thought)
     
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  14. izSpK

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    I kind of understand what is going on now, and there is no way djlobo is a scammer in this case. He never were in my opinion, and don't think he will. As for your site djlobo: work on it hard. Vagex sells because it works fast, and delivers as supposed. U2bviews doesn't deliver as fast, and people feel let down.

    Also spend a bit less time comparing to others, and work on your thing to make it BETTER than the others.

    Those are all things that you have to learn in life, the hard way. That was the case for me, I hope you apply those to your work before anything happens and you get called names such as 'scammer'.
     
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    hello djlobo

    i like a lot of people here have put a lot of bandwidth onto your project.How about returning credits on videos that are no longer getting views, so they can be put back in rotation, (a vagex feature)
    i have 10+ videos that are getting about 5 views a day , and this has been going on for months.I would like to re-list them using your new comment app , which i really like.


    Also selling 20k views - 50k on second orders is un-realistic , my fivver order is on 2k views after 5 months.you should re-advertise that and do no more than 5k views , you will still make your money and you system will work faster.

    I dont thing you will find you have completed one of your fiverr orders yet ?

    good luck with your site and dont get angry , communicate :)
     
  16. tube-diva

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    A scam is a confidence trick where one manipulates the facts to win the trust of another and then takes their time, bandwidth, service or money by deception and then gives nothing in return. Just because U2BVIEWS is not taking any money or taking a few dollars here and there does not make it less of a scam.

    What U2BVIEWS is actually doing is in essence selling organic YouTube views. Since Mr Lobo does not own YouTube, his site U2BVIEWS has no way of knowing whether their bogus site views are even being counted on not. Hence, relying on the YouTube counter is scamming people out of their own random views.

    I asked him kindly to familiarize himself with the barter system since that is how YouTube operates. We pay for the videos and they pay for bandwidth and site expenses. Likewise, Mr Lobo pays for the site, we pay for the bandwidth and nothing is actually free. You can sugarcoat it all you want, but simply reading the YouTube counter and selling those views as being delivered by U2BVIEWS just because one is a member is a classic definition of scamming in so many levels. It is bad enough whenever one buy views that are flagged as spam and YouTube refuses to count them; now I have to pay for my own organic views after U2BVIEWS checks my YouTube counter? I don't think so!
     
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  17. tube-diva

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    I am glad that you put a spin on this as Mr Lobo is just being "UNREALISTIC" by selling 50,000 views. If you ask me, I would call it a "SCAM" right there on the spot since I believe that anyone who can deliver that many views would be making tons of money without the need to peddle them on fiverr. I can even bet my last buck that the 2,000 views you got in 5 months are random organic views from YouTube.

    Don?t you see the progression pattern here? First it was 5,000 site credits to join U2BVIEWS for $5. Then buy 50,000 views for the site that one was forced to join with a promise that you would make unlimited views through view4view. After that, a referral contest for 5,000,000 credits. Hey dude, you failed to deliver 5k since it will take a year at 100/day, how are you going to deliver 5 million views?

    5,000,000 credits at 100 views/day will take
    ? 50,000 days or
    ? 7,143 weeks or
    ? 1,786 months or
    ? 149 years

    Tell me that this is not a scam and I will tell you I am Beyonce and we?ll leave it at that.
     
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    Wow...I'm suprised when I looked at this thread. I used them before and their service has been smooth
     
  19. Inetpub

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    hi beyonce.

    Heres a good newbie question. Its not that hard to find some sort of success on youtube. Even on my worst videos I have over 1000 views in afew days. On my best video, ive over 100,000 views. afew of them are in the 10,000-60,000. Whats wrong with building organic traffic?
     
  20. tube-diva

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    This is like telling working mom Beyonce who got scammed by a babysitter; why can?t she stay at home and raise her child the way nature intended? Some people have a day job besides YouTube. Plus all these view scammers bank on the fact people will be too embarrassed to admit that they were looking to boost their views at all the wrong places.

    But look at the top left hand corner of your video view page next to analytics, you will see PROMOTE. That?s when YouTube takes your money with a promise to promOte your content so that you will get more video views and boost your YouTube video?s view count while encouraging you to promote your own video on and off of YouTube WITH CASH.

    In other words, it is OK to buy real eyeballs to watch your video and not OK pay one who hacks the YouTube counter to sell their views.