Twitter Phone Re-verification Wave

I got hit with a slew of SMS verification, had about 30 out of 60 accounts locked. Nothing spammy, I think it was just the follow churn that got me. Just went through and unlocked them all, gonna dial back the FL settings for a couple days and see what happens I guess. Hopefully I'll be able to slide under the radar until this blows over, then ramp things back up.

blasouveir said:

By blocked I don't mean banned, I meant "locked". After phone re-verification accounts are usable again, but if I try to do any following again, they get blocked again, asking for phone re-verification again .. and so on.
My accounts are not that old, 1-2 months, I have 10 accounts, using no proxies and was doing 500 follows with 500 unfollows daily, semi-automated with a chrome extension called "Twitter follower" that adds some small delay between each follow. For unfollowing I was using "unfollowerstats", a free web app similar to crowdfireapp, which also adds a bit of delay between each unfollow. Maybe a bit reckless for not using proxies, I know, but it was working fine up until now.


When I tried to follow manually same thing happened. Tried to space out the followings: followed one person, waited 1 minute, followed another, account got blocked again after only 2-3 followings.
It is possible that account age is a factor, since my accounts are fairly new, it gets triggered after maybe 100 follows. The people reporting with 700+ daily followings could be using older accounts.
Another thing could be my IP address getting flagged somehow, so now any suspicious behavior from my IP triggers sms re-verification. Though I beleive account age is more likely, since most of the people here reporting it have fairly new accounts.

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Account age can be a factor, but in your case it's rather the ip or maybe the combination of the two. 10 accs on the same ip is just too much, i personally wouldn't go above 3-4. I'm running 2 accs per ip. I think you can consider yourself lucky, that you got hit with the re-verification just now.
More than likely you'll need new accs and a few proxies or pause the accs for a few days and see what happens.

Also i'm not sure how safe those chrome addons/scripts are. I think it would be wiser to use either a bot, where you can configure the settings better or just make a macro with iMacros and add big enough, random delays. If you follow 500/day, you can space that out easily and you can even leave your accs rest for a few hours. There aren't just daily, but hourly limits too, i can imagine if you hit those continuously, that can mean trouble too. I wouldn't worry too much about the unfollowing and limits, there are no hard limits. I use manageflitter since basically the beginning, so for years now and i haven't got any account locked because of unfollowing too fast or too many, although with managflitter practically there's no delay. The delay with following matters a lot more.

My advice would be: Start out with 2-3 months old PVAs, i always have trouble with fresh accs. Don't forget to email verify the accs if they were only verified with SMS, because when it comes to password reset and if an account is verified with both, oftentimes you can select between email or SMS, so the acc doesn't necessarily toast, if you don't have access to the phone number, but you have access to the email. Use 2-3 acs per proxy and if you think that you pushed it too hard, do less actions with more accs and space the actions out in time with random delays. And don't link the accs together in any way, otherwise doesn't make any sense running them on separate proxies.

HoNeYBiRD said:

And don't link the accs together in any way, otherwise doesn't make any sense running them on separate proxies.

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So each and every account of those 100 that your run, have completely unique tweets? I mean not only the url, but the texts as well. Because if they are not unique, your accounts are still connected by same tweet texts.

I thought I was the only one with this issue, guess not. Also have had sms re-verification problem where even though I verify with SMS, I get asked to verify AGAIN only after doing around 200 follows. Then I verify again and same thing happens.

I am using Followliker.

For now I have paused those accounts after verifying again for the 4th time. I can't keep doing this anymore, I don't know what to do for now.

I suggest you people buy google voice accounts for verifications, it is working fine with twitter.

Hello,

I'm fucked too by the sms verifications. 40 accounts lost.

I use follow liker and 2 accounts per IP.

Shit, that hurts. I had nice accounts.

vaidavytas said:

So each and every account of those 100 that your run, have completely unique tweets? I mean not only the url, but the texts as well. Because if they are not unique, your accounts are still connected by same tweet texts.

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I don't share the exact same tweets between accounts, because the urls are different (the domain is unique for every acc and i use hundreds of subdomains on every domain), the hashtags are different (hashtag pairs exactly, i have around 1.5k hashtag pairs i use), i use hundreds of pics, which aren't shared between the accs either. I have a system in place to randomize pretty much every element of the tweets independently from each other, i simply use Excel and a randomization macro with iMacros to achieve that, the results are quite unique. So no, i don't post the exact same tweets between different accs for sure. I don't even know, if i ever post the exact same tweet on the same acc.

It's not that hard to post unique tweets, you can use spintax too, just write very well spun comments with nested spintax. Yes, it takes some time, but it worth it. Although i don't use spintax, because the system i figured out, suits me better.

Hey guys, I'll contribute my experience for whatever it may be worth. I use Followliker, I'm down to 30 something accounts right now.
Normally a ban wave like this takes me down 25-50%.

This time I didn't lose a single account. Most of them have been idle in regards to following/unfollowing, while I've been programming a custom solution to raise my follow back ratio.

They've really not been doing anything but liking and retweeting for the past....probably few weeks now, and again, I caught zero casualties this time around.

Suggesting to me that following and unfollowing may have been the trigger, at least this time around.

While I'm sorry for your losses, this definitely makes me feel like I'm on the right track with my programming efforts.

Sebastian Rooks said:

Hey guys, I'll contribute my experience for whatever it may be worth. I use Followliker, I'm down to 30 something accounts right now.
Normally a ban wave like this takes me down 25-50%.

This time I didn't lose a single account. Most of them have been idle in regards to following/unfollowing, while I've been programming a custom solution to raise my follow back ratio.

They've really not been doing anything but liking and retweeting for the past....probably few weeks now, and again, I caught zero casualties this time around.

Suggesting to me that following and unfollowing may have been the trigger, at least this time around.

While I'm sorry for your losses, this definitely makes me feel like I'm on the right track with my programming efforts.

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No, I think there is more to it than that. I had a whole set of PVAs that I had not even used yet, all of them were suspended. BTW all of these PVAs were based on a russian email site and some kind of foreign (not US that is) based phone numbers. Beyond that, no activity of any kind and nothing really in common. Gonna try renting VMNs and making my own PVAs from now on. A buck a month for a stable PVA and SMS platform is I think well worth the price.

HoNeYBiRD said:

I don't share the exact same tweets between accounts, because the urls are different (the domain is unique for every acc and i use hundreds of subdomains on every domain), the hashtags are different (hashtag pairs exactly, i have around 1.5k hashtag pairs i use), i use hundreds of pics, which aren't shared between the accs either. I have a system in place to randomize pretty much every element of the tweets independently from each other, i simply use Excel and a randomization macro with iMacros to achieve that, the results are quite unique. So no, i don't post the exact same tweets between different accs for sure. I don't even know, if i ever post the exact same tweet on the same acc.

It's not that hard to post unique tweets, you can use spintax too, just write very well spun comments with nested spintax. Yes, it takes some time, but it worth it. Although i don't use spintax, because the system i figured out, suits me better.

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So, you were not touched by the ban/lock/sms verification waves?



edit: just to know: you have the choice between fresh PVA accounts, and aged (2009-2011) non-PVA accounts. What do you prefer/use? What is safer?

Thanks

WebStarr said:

I suggest you people buy google voice accounts for verifications, it is working fine with twitter.

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Hey that seems like a good idea, who sells them?

remotedb said:

Hey that seems like a good idea, who sells them?

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You have:
- emailmaster:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-facebook-pva-tumblr-twitter-youtube-ect.html
- and perhaps shravandude (ask him):
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...r-gmail-yahoo-hotmail-accounts-available.html

Okay so I think I found a way to prevent this kind of verification for people that buy PVA accounts. This method might not work for everyone. But I have several accounts that were Not PVA and they did get locked, but since I had no phone number added, it just asked me to enter a phone number and just verify my account with that phone number and I did and my account was unlocked. I then went and Deleted that phone number from that account in the settings and used the same phone number (My own phone number in Canada) and unlocked another account and so on. So what people can do when they buy accounts is to buy Non-PVA accounts and if their account get locked like this they can easily unlock it. There is a catch though, most of us that buy accounts receive them with some random email provider that is not known, so when I buy my accounts I pay extra to get them with Gmail so the chances of them getting banned with No-PVA is very low (Never got a single one banned). When I had accounts with RUMail I got all of them fully suspended and irretrievable. I hope this helps some of you in rebuilding your accounts. This method will not fix anyones current situation as all those PVA accounts are gone and I lost 250 accounts myself but some I was able to get back that were Non-PVA.

Google voice verification sounds like a good idea

Hello,

just like that, I ask again:

edit: just to know: you have the choice between fresh PVA accounts, and aged (2009-2011) non-PVA accounts. What do you prefer/use? What is safer?

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Thanks

More then 300 accs in 3 project summary, all created with sim cards by myself. 2 project with 200 accs working fine(only one acc get verification) they all 2 months old and follow/unfollow up to 450 daily, one project with 100 accs and daily up to 10 accs for verification first with long xyz123 code, after few days with short number code. What I see all new accs get verification if u have to big ratio between following and followers,Im usually getting verification when i following 1800 and have like up to 50 followers.
Also have same problem like op with getting code to phone, if u cant get in one day, try day later, usually work, sometimes I get error 404 after putting code and then when I try again i cant get code in this day even if I ask for code once , need to wait 24h
What i see if u put one number in many accs, those accs need to be asigned to one proxy, if u use one number with many proxies u will be always asked for verification.

I laso get third SMS verification on the same accounts jus in one week! I can unlock them easily but how to avoid another sms verification?
I noticed that only FL users have this problem...
Anyone solve this?

Hello,

I use follow liker too, but I noticed interesting things:
1) It's only a part of my accounts which are locked, not all my accounts. But all my accounts are on Follow Liker. So, if it was Follow Liker, why do I still have alive accounts?
2) My locked accounts have something in common, besides using Follow Liker: they were all verified with a .ru email (rambler or mail). Besides, my surviving accounts are very young accounts, but with the same settings than the locked accounts, and they are still alive. Why? Because, they were verified with a rediff.com email.
3) My locked accounts shared same links, but I have accounts which have these links which are still alive. Why? Because, it was old accounts made with another email (yahoo or gmail).

So, i really think it's the emails used to verify the accounts which were a footprint. Twitter targeted russian emails.

Others noticed this?

What email providers did you use to verify your accounts?


edit: I forgot to ask: my locked accounts are PVA accounts, and I search a service I can use to get sms with MY phone numbers.

I have the phone numbers, so I don't need a sms service to get phone numbers.

Do you know something like that?

Thanks.

What i see if u put one number in many accs, those accs need to be asigned to one proxy, if u use one number with many proxies u will be always asked for verification.

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Really great observation, thanks! Going to test it!

Just disappoint you about idea to buy accounts :-( It is seems like twitter also has problem with aged accounts (with following!) which were bought http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/twitter/842933-twitter-ghosting.html