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Traffic Arbitrage - Anyone skilled on that?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by irancrude, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. irancrude

    irancrude Power Member

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    Hello,

    I guess we all have seen those flash videos of all those so called gurus telling us how much they have made by simply using Traffic arbitrage techniques and how they made over 60.000 usd or so, etc tc blah blah. overnight.

    Idea is buy low sell high.. there also.

    I was wondering today if there is some solid and real information about traffic arbitrage techniques and if you could share some with us.

    If it is so profitable as they claim it, I am sure it's worth the trying.

    Anyonw who knows this stuff?

    Maurice
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  2. raz777

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    i was made a lot of money last year with arbitrage through domain parking,
    unfortunately they close the gates for this kind of traffic and they only accept type-in,

    i know some people still doing it by sending traffic from watermark video from youtube
    but i dont know how its effective

    if someone know how to do it with parking or PeakClick etc...
    let me know i can pay you for this
     
  3. irancrude

    irancrude Power Member

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    Hi
    Thanks for replying raz6032 it would be nice if you elaborate a little more on how you made it, it could certainly enlight some other members minds and maybe we could end with an idea or two here...
    How where you exactly making that on domain parking? I am curious.

    All the best

    Maurice
     
  4. raz777

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    what is domain parking ?

    you host your domain on those companies by point the domain DNS to theirs.
    on your page they show ads from google or yahoo. example : cel*eb*sign.com
    if the visitor click one of those ads you get avg 50% comissions out of what the advertiser have paid, so if he paid 1$ to show on parking domains you get 0.5$ (btw,those ads come from adwords/yahoo that advertise on content search)

    how you make money?

    by sending cheap traffic from 2tier,3tier search engines or even from the big boys google/yahoo/msn .
    so lets say you send traffic to your parking domain for 0.01$ per click,
    for each click on your domain you get 0.50$ .
    if your CTR is 10% (for every 10 visitors you get click) : 0.50-0.10=0.40 profit
    if you have domain name related to high paying keywords you can get more then 1$ per click, my highest earn ever was 17$ per click.

    THE BAD NEWS

    from 02/08 most of the big companies announced that they will not accept anymore traffic from search engines and they allow only type-in traffic :(
    and from what i know if you try play games with them they will close your account immediately,

    THE GOOD NEWS

    if someone here with programming knowledge can provide us a script that will make the traffic to look alike type-in ,i think it will worth a try.:D
     
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    document.location.href = url;

    I'm nearly positive that doesn't pass a referrer. No way to distinguish between that and a type-in. I had been sending traffic from nth tier PPC engines to activeaudience and doing very well, but the problem I ran into every time was that there'd be sudden obvious fraud and I'd get flooded with garbage and they wouldn't do anything about it.

    I have had success proving click fraud and getting 5 figure refunds for clients from yahoo, and I guess if you would do that with the second tiers and get refunds you'd end up making profit. I don't know how the second tiers will handle that though.
     
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  6. irancrude

    irancrude Power Member

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    Hi
    Thanks for posting it would be nice if you could explain a few things:

    The use to the line you added: document.location.href = url;

    Also what is or do you mean by "nth tier ppc" ? any network? do you have the U*R*L if so?

    Thanks given

    Maurice
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    irancrude Power Member

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    That would be awesome! if we could end this threat by creating or finding a solution to benefit all of us here.

    M. ;)
     
  8. raz777

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    i just now learned that type-in is show as a blank referrer, so you can use meta-refresh to do that, the safe way to do this is to use Genjutsu (he is a member here ) redirections 2 files,

    you can try it yourself in low numbers to stay under the radar and let us know,
    i dont know how those companies track theirs traffic those days.

    good luck
     
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  9. eastado

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    there was a good torrent technique discussed here I think it will do good on parked domain. You can upload stuff and password protect them tell people to click your adds for passwords. people will have to copy paste the link in their browsers so it will be like typin traffic. Do this with porn works good.
     
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  10. irancrude

    irancrude Power Member

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    Very interesting techniques, thanks for the light still seem kind of complex if not explained in full the whole thing, For example the metarefresh and redirection 2 files, how do I use those in a site and what can I expect exactly to that scripts if are that to do for me? Also will I be uncovered if my ppc-co take a look on my acct or site(s)?

    About what member Estado said, It would be nice if he could elaborate a litle more so we all can bennefit more.

    Regards

    Maurice