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Top 3-5 in Google

Discussion in 'Hire a Freelancer' started by joh123, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. joh123

    joh123 Newbie

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    I have no site yet but would like to rank top 3-5 for "financial advice" and similar. Have not done alot of keyword research yet.

    I can do seo myself but would like to know how much it would cost for someone to guarantee top ranking?

    I will not pay up front but continually as i see result.

    Can´t pm or Skype but can contact you via email.

    Thank you!
     
  2. MKelly

    MKelly Regular Member

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    You will have a long wait and hard fight on your hands if you want to rank for 'financial advice' organically.

    I did a quick competition check for you

    The youngest site in the top ten is 8 years old.

    The PageRank of positions 1-5 is 5,5,6,5,6 respectively. (it will take time to build up this level of trust and quality of back-links)

    But there is a glimmer of hope, surprisingly for such a competitive keyword, the on-site SEO for some of the top ten isn't up to scratch for that specific term, five of the top ten don't have the exact phrase 'Financial Advice' in the page title, description or <h1> tag.

    In a niche like this, black-hat tactics can get you reported quickly too.

    Free advice!
     
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    PinkyX Power Member

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    If you are really interested and have the required funds for such work talk to me on skype. (pm sent)
     
  4. joh123

    joh123 Newbie

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    Thanks for the advice!

    I don´t have Skype.
     
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    zebrahat Elite Member

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    You can also rank 3-5 if you settle for long tail variants off 'financial advice.' Many such terms are still available. PMed you.
     
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    If someone sells guaranteed position most likely would be scam. I the people that will offer it will ask for upfront payment :). Do SEO yourself.
     
  7. joh123

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    Hi! Thanks for pm. Yes other kw can work. I will look up some with the Google tool. I would need a guarantee for top ranking or money back.
    And i would also need to pay as i see results. When the site rank on page 5 for example i pay 20%. Another 20% when on page 4 etc..

    If you have other suggestions let me know.
     
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  8. joh123

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    Another idea is that if you can do it for a low cost we can share the profit from the site. I intend to give advice for longer term investors. How to avoid stock market crashes but still be in when it goes up.
    Could potentially mean much money.
     
  9. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    No payment up front... Good luck finding someone. Who in their right mind is going to invest their own money to see your rank. Then what if you can them and get someone else, the SEO person would be screwed.

    Money back guarenteee @OP, are you out of your mind. Google updates their algorithm ... "I want my money back".

    This sounds like a scam.
     
  10. joh123

    joh123 Newbie

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    Of course. If you don´t give any refund guarantee then you are likely a scam.
    There are firms out there who do work like this.
     
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    get ready to spend $10K/week then:)
     
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    just think about what happened when google places came.Did the freelancers refund the money because the first few listings were google places?
    what if we bring you to top five then google decides it would place its youtube or other shit in that niche in top 3 or 4?
    should we refund the money because google decided to screw up?
     
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    And then earn multiples of that
     
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    joh123 Newbie

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    No of course refund if the site does not reach the top. Or if it´s just dance and falls back.
     
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    Anyone cant guess how much you need to get top three positions but definitely some k's will get involved.
     
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    joh123 Newbie

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    Why so much? Does not cost alot to build backlinks. You mean buying an old domain or something else?
     
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    It just takes time. I don´t think those saying it cost thousands know what they are talking about. It could but it does not have to if you know your seo i bet.
     
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    How do you want to make money with your site?
     
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    I plan to sell annual forecasts of the stock market. And signals of buy/sell as well. Now soon in the coming weeks for example there is a high risk of a decline in the market. Many investors are not aware of that. If they were they could save ALOT.
     
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    Many freelancers here (me included) don't play 100% after-work-complete bill collector, precisely because of the issues identified above. Expending a lot of time and skill to produce the SEO components the OP wants to see before any payment, given Google's lack of good faith in keeping the rules the same, creates an unfair situation for the freelancer. At least partial payment upfront would level the playing field, with both parties having invested something. As an example of how much work may be involved to produce the SEO results the OP wants, look at one of the various "my journey" threads on BHW, like this one:

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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/286737-challenge-how-long-50-day-adsense.html
     
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