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This is how inaccurate Google KW tool is.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jerzydawg, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. jerzydawg

    jerzydawg Supreme Member

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    I get 9 to 10 visitors on a 1900 exact search keyword I am #1 for. I have been #1 for a while but I should be getting over 60 users on average. I hate Google. :eek:wned:

    I guess you should always under estimate when doing research.
     
  2. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    It says on the bottom of the website that those results and stats are not guaranteed :)
     
  3. mudbutt

    mudbutt Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    my experiences are that Google underestimates the traffic volume. I usually get a lot more then what is stated on the estimates.
     
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    Dn100 Regular Member

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    I've also noticed that the volume of searches can actually inflate and fluctuate depending on the time of year.... For example, if you have a product which is seasonal.... and sells well in Jan/Feb, you will notice the search volume to be higher just after these months, than the rest of the year.

    My opinion, is to use the keyword tool alongside google trends to ensure the keyword receives a constant stream of traffic, and not just once a year, which then averages out at a x,xxx volume in the keyword tool itself..
     
  5. affarmy

    affarmy Regular Member

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    alot of people BUY the #1 ad spot for a few days to estimate prior to spending all the time and $$ to seo..FWIW
     
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    SahL Elite Member

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    Google Keyword tool is downgraded IMo.

    Here are the Top 5 keyword research tools.

    Not free though.

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    http://www.top-keyword-research.com/
     
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  7. hurn

    hurn Power Member

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    Hey Guys before complaining Google you should research on it. I did many researches and now Google numbers are almost correct.

    1. Did you check the webmaster tool to see impressions that you got?

    Your CTR is 0.5% so it is reasonable because there are laser target ads in the google search rather than your meta tags.

    Google is correct. You got confused. Optimize your meta tags and see results.
     
  8. dgfalk

    dgfalk Power Member

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    What does your title and description tag say? It could be garbage and people are just skipping it and going right to the #2 spot.
     
  9. assphuck

    assphuck Senior Member

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    I second dgfalk's comments. Spammy/shitty titles and descriptions are a turn off. You may want to tweak this so that the meta info appeals more to those that see it.
     
  10. jerzydawg

    jerzydawg Supreme Member

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    The title/description is attractive. There is no doubt about that. If you guys want the URL, you can PM me.
     
  11. flyingbear

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    well, in my case, it is not accurate at all.

    my title/meta includes the main keyword, the traffic volum, according to G KW tool, it is > 300K per month locally, global > 450K. I'm the #1, and gets about 1,500 visitors per day based on google analytics. not sure whether I should believe KW tool, or Analytics.
     
  12. harry911

    harry911 Regular Member

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    Maybe you are targeting a seasonal keyword.Did you check google insights?
     
  13. altschule

    altschule Regular Member

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    ...so check AW Stats/setup more than 1 statistical platform and weed it out?

    Search engine USERS are getting smarter by the day as well. A lot of the things that G is looking for itself, the users will look for as well such as EMD, relating keywords in desc, etc.

    Try switching the title tag up.
    I've noticed that trying to add more attractants in my title tags hurts me in the long run. Use the EXACT keyword in your title, and nothing else. This has helped SEO value as well as CTR (although, sometimes it hurts too, which is why you should test)
     
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo-tools/329423-betatesting-kss-keyword-suggestion-scraper-keyword-scraper-analyser-organizer-6.html
     
  15. oblivion19

    oblivion19 Senior Member

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    thats a good one...Im gonna def. use this wen i planning to target some semi big keywords

    I also have my share of grievances with google similar to the OP
     
  16. makingonions

    makingonions Newbie

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    Thanks to those ITT for those other keyword search links and such.
     
  17. rippy

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    Yep, I got on first page (5-7) for keyword that has 150 000 local searches.
    Received like 50 visits for a month.
     
  18. xbox360gurl70s

    xbox360gurl70s Elite Member

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    Might be your CTR, number 2 or 3 probably have more click throughs than you. Have you check your Description and Titles compared to the ones below you?

    Also log out of your google account, you may be number 1 only within your account and not in regular Google
     
  19. sircoldfire

    sircoldfire Junior Member

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    make sure the title and meta description for the page are clickbait ... and the domain cant sound lame .. stop thinking like a bh/seo guy trying to get #1 on google and make sure that what a human see would make a human click it...

    just my 2¢ but anywhere one the first page is probably gona get looked at so make sure you get looked rank 1 is important but clicks are more important
     
  20. Ramsweb

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    Keyword analysis tool has given me some disappointing results as well. But, it has given me some surprises also. Sometimes, it says that only 300 people are searching for a search term but I get 10 visitors in just one day by being on the lower half of the first page.

    One good way to investigate your keyword would be to type it in Google. If you see a lot of suggestions with your keyword as part of many other keywords, you can almost be sure that you are going to get a lot less than what Google promises.

    For example, there might be a keyword that says "Your keyword" and Google might say that it gets 5,000 searches in a month.
    But, if you type the keyword in Google and you see many suggestions like YOUR KEYWORD xxxxx, YOUR KEYWORD xxxxxxxxx, YOUR KEYWORD XXX XXXXXXXX XXXXX etc...it means that you should be very conservative with your expectations.

    Just my opinion of course.