This guy is ranking 1 for something comp. no 301 redirects, how?

FuryKyle said:
Just analysed it - he has a crap load of paid links everywhere. I wonder if it's worth the ROI.
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Of course it's a good ROI, considering he gets $50-$100 per affiliate sign up.. Let's say he spent $1000 on links, he can recover that with 10-20 sales.
And since he is not ranking high only for the term I mentioned, he must be banking hard.
 
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Expertpeon said:
Unfortunately, they almost never last even 2 months though.
Many times they will last less than a month.
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Depends,going slow it would stick because alot of big sites use 301's legitimately but these guys blast big and simply clone sites then repeat,it's all about making money and they seem to do that well.The reason they don't stick is because they remove the 301 to another domain.
 
cloakndagger said:
Depends,going slow it would stick because alot of big sites use 301's legitimately but these guys blast big and simply clone sites then repeat,it's all about making money and they seem to do that well.The reason they don't stick is because they remove the 301 to another domain.
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No, that's not why they don't stick.
If you redirect a bunch of domains that have a lot of backlinks to a site it will be hit sooner or later by google due to the 301 method.
A lot of long standing sites do not use the 301 method at all, in fact, or use it very sparringly.

https://www.majesticseo.com/reports/site-explorer/summary/www.best-hostings.in?IndexDataSource=F

Another site in the top 5 for "best web hosting" does not use paid links at all or redirects either.
More than one way to skin a cat is my only point.

This site:
https://www.majesticseo.com/reports/site-explorer/summary/www.bestwebhosting.com?IndexDataSource=F

Also no redirects
Not sure why the OP didn't analyze all of the top 5 in his post.

The #3 site doesn't even have more than 80 links to it.... and almost none are bought.
 
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Expertpeon said:
If you redirect a bunch of domains that have a lot of backlinks to a site it will be hit sooner or later by google due to the 301 method.
A lot of long standing sites do not use the 301 method at all, in fact, or use it very sparringly.
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https://www.majesticseo.com/reports/site-explorer/summary/autotrader.ca
 
Google penalize you if you have lots of links and you are not massive

So the results are seriously worsen now than before. Not to suprise
 
Expertpeon said:
Also no redirects
Not sure why the OP didn't analyze all of the top 5 in his post.

The #3 site doesn't even have more than 80 links to it.... and almost none are bought.
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I used Traffic Travis to check out the competition, I didn't notice any unusual sites in the top places therefore I only picked that site.
I also don't really have the time to do thorough and deep checks.. I appreciate your insight guys.
 
Expertpeon said:
This has nothing at all to do with what I said.
Everyone knows there's two completely different sets of rules for your own websites, and the giants.
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I thought giants only existed in legends.
 
NikosX said:
penguin did some pretty stupid things... one of my sites ranked for "thank you" from a thank you message i posted on the blog section and i got xx.xxx number of visits / day for this keyword... lol!
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cookie stuff the page with amazon and you will see big money from that thank you page..
 
Expertpeon said:
This has nothing at all to do with what I said.
Everyone knows there's two completely different sets of rules for your own websites, and the giants.
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That's because google reads these forums,I don't think people should mention sites because you are basically outing someone,most people wouldn't want to see their site posted here.
 
Expertpeon said:
No, that's not why they don't stick.
If you redirect a bunch of domains that have a lot of backlinks to a site it will be hit sooner or later by google due to the 301 method.
A lot of long standing sites do not use the 301 method at all, in fact, or use it very sparringly.

https://www.majesticseo.com/reports/site-explorer/summary/www.best-hostings.in?IndexDataSource=F

Another site in the top 5 for "best web hosting" does not use paid links at all or redirects either.
More than one way to skin a cat is my only point.

This site:
https://www.majesticseo.com/reports/site-explorer/summary/www.bestwebhosting.com?IndexDataSource=F

Also no redirects
Not sure why the OP didn't analyze all of the top 5 in his post.

The #3 site doesn't even have more than 80 links to it.... and almost none are bought.
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I see your point,what I meant was use maybe 1 or 2 and go easy on the link pointing to the 301'd domains build up the links slowly.I understand a massive amount of links will hit a site eventually but if those links to the 301'd domain look natural I see no reason why it would cause an issue.
 
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