The Vaccine & Pfitzer: Did you know?

Will you be taking the Pfitzer Vaccine?

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Dark Sky said:
How come not the one from oxford that's just a standard vaccine?
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I won't be taking any mandated vaccine, that's for sure. Call me a conspiracy theorist, if a vaccine is mandatory, it's not a vaccine I want.

You have a higher chance of getting a debilitating side affect from the vaccine than being hospitalized from the virus.

The CDC also says the vaccine does not prevent asymptomatic transmission of the virus. What is a vaccine supposed to do then?

Here's a list of side effects from the current pfizer vaccine;

  • Guillain-Barré syndrome
  • Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis
  • Transverse myelitis
  • Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/meningoencephalitis/meningitis/encepholapathy
  • Convulsions/seizures
  • Stroke
  • Narcolepsy and cataplexy
  • Anaphylaxis
  • Acute myocardial infarction
  • Myocarditis/pericarditis
  • Autoimmune disease
  • Deaths
  • Pregnancy and birth outcomes
  • Other acute demyelinating diseases
  • Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions
  • Thrombocytopenia
  • Disseminated intravascular coagulationenous thromboembolism
  • Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain
  • Kawasaki disease
  • Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children

Its probably also important that these pharmaceutical companies have complete legal immunity to any adverse reactions caused from the vaccine. They cannot be sued.

Do you want to take it now?
 
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You might not have a choice, if you want to vaccinate early. It will depend on the vaccines your country is able to secure and even if they secure the vaccine you want, they might not let you choose, especially if they provide the vaccine for free.
 
I'm not against vaccines, and I like the pharmaceutical industry, but as I am currently infected with the Coronavirus, and have no real symptoms, I will be immune for like 8 month minimum from what I've read, I will wait till there are some "reviews" and think about it rationally.
 
That is a lot of power in one companies hand, hopefully, it won't bite us in the ass
Although it has been tested on humans and it works but it has not been tested against time, who knows what will be the long term effects of it, we might find the entire humanity got sterile after a couple of years
 
Magmaspace said:
I am going thr take the vaccine. My family is on the frontline in the fight against the covid. So I will get the vaccine actually earlier then you, while you debate if you wanna take it or not.
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Here is the difference between dubious attitudes and a necessity, and this is why not everyone will get even access to the vaccines at first. Priorities are priorities.

Regardless of the availability, I may stick for a while with the masks, since I'm far from the front line.
 
Amoled said:
I'm not against vaccines, and I like the pharmaceutical industry, but as I am currently infected with the Coronavirus, and have no real symptoms, I will be immune for like 8 month minimum from what I've read, I will wait till there are some "reviews" and think about it rationally.
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I'm pretty sure there's been cases of people being reinfected after 2 months, FYI. Hope you'll get well soon and won't have any lasting effects!
 
Dark Sky said:
I.E althugh the vaccine is 60% effective, that doesn't mean everyone has a 60% chance of it working, it means 60% of people who take it will be protected, the other 40% not.
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That is exactly what it means.
Rather than me say it, let's have a direct quote from William Schaffner, Professor of Health Policy and of Preventive Medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine:
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Yes, it is possible that you could still get sick or transmit the virus to someone else, even after having received the vaccine, according to experts. "The vaccines are 90% effective. That means that there’s a small chance you could encounter the virus and still get sick," Schaffner said.
What this translates to, is NOT:
90% of people protected 100% of the time
What this translates to, IS:
100% of people protected 90% of the time

APNews put it plainly, saying
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What does COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness mean?

It refers to the likelihood that a coronavirus shot will work in people.

salamat said:
HOW IS THAT RELATED????
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It's not related, based off the situation. It's related based on principality. On one hand, you have a group of people saying that they don't want the governments involved in the process of allowing people to end the lives of their own unborn children. They feel that since the baby is born in their bodies, it's their own choice about what happens with their body. Ergo, "My body, my choice."

On the other hand, many of these same people are all for the government bodies to involve themselves by heavily encouraging and / or forcing their respective citizens to have a thoroughly rushed and untested vaccination injected into their bodies. So in essence, "***My body, my choice. has left the chat***"

People feel that if it's your choice to forcefully end your pregnancy on the basis that it happens in YOUR body, then you should be able to decline being injected, since it happens in YOUR body.

I hope this explanation clears it
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Dark Sky said:
I disagree, I assume the first dose was the vaccine, and the 2nd was the placebo, and was done accidentally.
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The placebo tests did happen, though those were two separate sets of tests, and not the test I'd mentioned earlier. If I recall correctly, the placebo tests happened in larger groups, which were around 44,000 and 30,000 people.

allosaurusmktg said:
Pfizer should stick to making viagra...
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Dude, Viagra has so many crazy side effects, it's not even funny. You can literally go blind from taking Viagra. If they can't straighten a penis without insane side effects, what does that mean when they try to solve something like COVID-19.

Dark Sky said:
I don't accept this, it's a fact. I'm not stating an opinion here.
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Please cite your source(s). This seems very inaccurate and misleading.

VSYNC said:
1000 subject sample size is massively unreliable.
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Agreed. Especially when a GLOBAL pandemic is involved. People all over the world have such different lifestyles, cultures, genetics, environmental conditions and exposure to different substances, stress levels, etc. Far too many unknowns to be reliable.

H33VEN said:
The best vaccine for this virus is training your immune system. So because of corona I started doing cold showers, meditation & breathing exercises. I believe this is the best vaccine you will get (for long term).
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Don't forget about masturbation. :)
Lots and lots of masturbation.
More info, here. Participants in "No Nut November" may have screwed themselves (pun intended).

moistnapkin said:
Here's a list of side effects from the current pfizer vaccine;

  • Guillain-Barré syndrome
  • Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis
  • Transverse myelitis
  • Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/meningoencephalitis/meningitis/encepholapathy
  • Convulsions/seizures
  • Stroke
  • Narcolepsy and cataplexy
  • Anaphylaxis
  • Acute myocardial infarction
  • Myocarditis/pericarditis
  • Autoimmune disease
  • Deaths
  • Pregnancy and birth outcomes
  • Other acute demyelinating diseases
  • Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions
  • Thrombocytopenia
  • Disseminated intravascular coagulationenous thromboembolism
  • Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain
  • Kawasaki disease
  • Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children
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That's a lot.

Amoled said:
I'm not against vaccines, and I like the pharmaceutical industry, but as I am currently infected with the Coronavirus, and have no real symptoms, I will be immune for like 8 month minimum from what I've read, I will wait till there are some "reviews" and think about it rationally.
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Sorry to hear that you're infected. Good luck.
 
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They skip some phases on testing a vaccine. Takes years to be 3/4 safe.

Years ago my cousin take a normal flu vaccine and almost died because the reaction on his body.

Human DNA is unique, its pretty impossible any vaccine to be perfect, especially in such a small time frame.

But same as on other markets, some people like it, some people don't. Everyone it's free to do whatever they want to.

Thank you but, no, thank you.
 
Y'all talking like you're being there and test it.

This thread is based on opinions, not facts. The only facts that you have are what social media feeds you.

Take the vaccine - - Don't take the vaccine -> It Is up to everyone. Anti-vaxxers have "valid" points based on their opinions only, while the rest of humanity depends on science to live.

They are not mandatory, YET, you do need a certificate/ID that shows you're vaccinated to travel. (so mandatory by other factors).
 
I don't think that much of what I said in this thread is opinion.

For example, if I were to state something like this:
Moderna states that their vaccination is to be delivered in two dosages, and that the dosages will be 28 days apart.
This would be factual.
In the popular zombie movie and it's sequel, "28 Days", and "28 Days Later", the title makes me think that there will soon be "walkers" among us, because this may be what Moderna is trying to do to us.
This would be opinion.

I'm not saying this ^ is my opinion of Moderna, but I do think that considering the circumstances (and in conjunction with pop culture), they chose a pretty interesting delta to roll with.
 
GainTheImpossible said:
Y'all talking like you're being there and test it.

This thread is based on opinions, not facts. The only facts that you have are what social media feeds you.

Take the vaccine - - Don't take the vaccine -> It Is up to everyone. Anti-vaxxers have "valid" points based on their opinions only, while the rest of humanity depends on science to live.

They are not mandatory, YET, you do need a certificate/ID that shows you're vaccinated to travel. (so mandatory by other factors).
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God you talk shit :oops: ..must be the 3rd or 4th comment of yours back-to-back I've thought the same.
 
Conspiracy theories are there for a reason. You dimwits will figure things out sooner or later. Im afraid it will be too late tho :anyway:
 
If they gonna force us taking the vaccine, for example, travelling will require you taking the vaccine, then unfortunately me and many more will have to do this :(
 
Dark Sky said:
  • mRNA injects genetic instructions into you, to program your cells.
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This is blatantly untrue.

The pfizer vaccine contains the covid spike protein, which essentially the virus with all the bad stuff removed. The spike protein is enough to trigger an immune response in your body.

There is no programming of cells other than triggering an immune response.

If anyone is genuinely interested in learning more, I strongly suggest getting your information from a trusted source. Do not base your decisions and beliefs on things you read on forums or social media. Especially marketing forums.

Critical thinking is a valuable skill to have and needs to be given more focus in education systems. I only say this as its a lack of critical thinking that leads to false or misleading information being spread online. Hence the rise in antivacce sentiment, flat earthers, 5 G covid spreading, fake virus claims and more.
 
bandititf9 said:
If they gonna force us taking the vaccine, for example, travelling will require you taking the vaccine, then unfortunately me and many more will have to do this :(
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Find out how they record who's taken the vaccine and who hasn't where you live. If you can, go to a place without good internet and computers - backwater town somewhere. The try to find a way that you can bribe someone to give you a certificate. If you're from out of town they probably won't give a shit anyway and will be happy to get the money. Option 2 is forging the certificate yourself, also useful in places where there are no digital records.

jonnyah said:
Critical thinking is a valuable skill to have and needs to be given more focus in education systems. I only say this as its a lack of critical thinking that leads to false or misleading information being spread online. Hence the rise in antivacce sentiment, flat earthers, 5 G covid spreading, fake virus claims and more.
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You can single out a few fringe ideas that hardly anyone believes, but critical thinking is actually the reason that people consider conspiracy theories in the first place. Putting concerns about vaccines and flat earth in the same sentence is disingenuous.
 
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guys if u did survive one year with corona then why not survive another one two..?
sometimes i see the power of media and what they can do,it is horrible, they give lies and you believe, it not always but most of the time, and dont tell me i have got corona and i knew some one got it ... etc
just you got sick or some one got sick or some one had problems breathing.... cause these things happens since the bigning and people died since the begning it is not something new not untill corona Showed up people started to die or to get sick... nothing new here...

but in the end it is up to you, you have a brain you can choice between right and wrongtakeit or not it up to you, and i will say that again the vaccine is not the same thing as the cure, vaccine will only protect you not you family not your friends.. that means even if u take the vaccine you can transfer the virus to others.

and believe me the real virus is fear it self, if you fear a lot then your imunity become weak and your body becomes open to all kind of viruses...
 
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