THE SANDBOX WILL GET YOU...or not?

Jeepy said:

No, there is no Google sandbox, Google's John confirmed it.

With new websites, the thing you usually see is just rank transition patent. And even with that, there are ways to both skip the transition and dramatically reduce the delays.

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As the simplest way to get out of this or never "get in" is to build a site, put all the content in it, make internal links, etc and just don't touch anything for ~4 months. YOu are from to make backlinks, but remember to keep velocity for those 4 months. If you built 100 links in the first month, don't build 0 next month, but at least 80. That patent means google is especially making your site bounce and it's checking what you are doing, if you are doing unnatural stuff, you will stay in that "sandbox" longer. So build your site, launch it, keep it steady, don't change anything and wait.

fasttrak said:

The fact you are ranking for easy KW's is a good sign. It means that Google likes your site and it bodes well for your money pages in the future. This is literally the 1st thing I look for when building a site out. If it ranks for easy KW's, it means it is good to go for the real ones!

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Wow that's kinda re-assuring to know ahahah Thank you so much!

Jeepy said:

As the simplest way to get out of this or never "get in" is to build a site, put all the content in it, make internal links, etc and just don't touch anything for ~4 months. YOu are from to make backlinks, but remember to keep velocity for those 4 months. If you built 100 links in the first month, don't build 0 next month, but at least 80. That patent means google is especially making your site bounce and it's checking what you are doing, if you are doing unnatural stuff, you will stay in that "sandbox" longer. So build your site, launch it, keep it steady, don't change anything and wait.

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I still can't understand what this patent is what's the difference with the "sandbox"...i don't know maybe i should read more about it.

Sandbox doesn't exist.

It's all about competition.

If you can't rank keyword that you think easy, it's mean you who wrongly determine keyword competition.

There is reason you can rank super long tail keyword or super weird keyword even with new website, because no one target it.

And it's all about your website authority aka your backlinks profile and relevance.

Get an Ahrefs report & share. Someone might be able to suggest with such data.

This just isn't 100% true. I'm working on a site right now (brand new domain). We have 25 articles so far, zero backlinks, legit social signals only...we are ranking for 45 keywords after 6-8 weeks. ‍

peachseo said:

I recommended you always buy deleted or expire domain because if you buy new domain and then index in google so google will keep in the sandbox at least 3 to 6 months does not matter how many articles did you post or how many backlinks did you make google always prefer old domain to the ranking factors.

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Flea Market SEO said:

This just isn't 100% true. I'm working on a site right now (brand new domain). We have 25 articles so far, zero backlinks, legit social signals only...we are ranking for 45 keywords after 6-8 weeks. ‍

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i am talking about first page or 2nd page like if you want to rank medium computation keyword for example "3 week diet reviews" you cant before 3 month..

HustleTong said:

Get an Ahrefs report & share. Someone might be able to suggest with such data.

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Yeah i will for sure, but not now, it’s still too early since the site went live. Maybe next month.

peachseo said:

i am talking about first page or 2nd page like if you want to rank medium computation keyword for example "3 week diet reviews" you cant before 3 month..

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Actually i’m ranking at the 5th spot of the 3rd page for a “best stuff” keyword. It’s because i’m in Italy? And it’s been like maybe 1 month since i made my site indexable...

Jeepy said:

No, there is no Google sandbox, Google's John confirmed it.

With new websites, the thing you usually see is just rank transition patent. And even with that, there are ways to both skip the transition and dramatically reduce the delays.

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How do you skip the transition / reduce the delays?

Zacarias Pablo said:

Sandbox doesn't exist.

It's all about competition

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I'm seeing a lot of opinions both ways. Here's what I'm going to do. I am going to build 4 sites in the same exact niche. 1 each on a brand new domain, expired domain with no backlinks, expired domain with backlinks, and a domain that I will get transfered without expiration. I will put up 2 articles on each site, each 1,000 words, focused on a KGR term with similar volume and competition. No backlinks at all. Then I will see how things go and this should be a pretty definitive answer to this question. Whichever site performs the best will be the money site. If there is value to the other sites they may become part of the PBN. If not, then I will just take the content and transfer to a money site.