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[TEAMWORK] Over Optimisation Penalty - BEEN HIT? Post here!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Windmill, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    BHW EMERGENCY! BHW EMERGENCY!

    A New Google Update Happened Today

    Been hit? So have I. We need to work together to solve the mystery behind why our websites have dropped. So, lets compare all important/relevant metrics. Fill in the survey below. Feel free to fill it in multiple times for different websites. Then we can compare our different strategies, and analyze them. I will be starting a second thread surveying people who have NOT been hit. Please only fill in this survey if you have been hit. Organisation is key; otherwise our data will get muddled and it'll be hard to figure out which strategies work and which ones don't!

    1. Website Niche
    2. Age of website in months/years.
    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site?
    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website?
    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week)
    6. Is it an EMD?
    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks?
    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site?
    9. Does your website have spun content on it?
    10. Has only the root domain been hit?
    11. Describe the penalty you have received. E.g. "I have 5 core keywords. Keyword 1 dropped from #3 to #46. Keyword 2 has dropped from #5 to no where to be found..." etc etc.
    12. Describe your backlinking strategy. E.g. "I create 5 web 2.0's. I then create 10 articles and link them to the web 2.0's. I then blast the articles with 10k scrapebox blast, and bookmark the web 2.0's 5 times each. I ping all of the links. I also use a private blog network, and I drip feed 5 posts every 3 days. I use spun content in my articles/properties. I create the properties/articles manually. I bookmark the properties manually."
    13. Any other relevant comments

    If we work together, we will survive this. Stay strong my brothers and sisters!
     
  2. graphox

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    1. Website Niche - Video Games
    2. Age of website in months/years. - 1.5 years
    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site? Whitehat
    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website? 3? Mostly homepage has like 2000, not an Adsense MNS that's why
    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week) No
    6. Is it an EMD? No
    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks? Yes
    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site? 1-2%? Maybe more/less
    9. Does your website have spun content on it? No
    10. Has only the root domain been hit? Yes
    11. Describe the penalty you have received. E.g. "I have 5 core keywords. Keyword 1 dropped from #3 to #46. Keyword 2 has dropped from #5 to no where to be found..." etc etc. I have 30~ LSI keywords. All of them ranked for the homepage. They all are not in Top 100 now. My domain.com/pagename are all ranking though
    12. Describe your backlinking strategy. E.g. "I create 5 web 2.0's. I then create 10 articles and link them to the web 2.0's. I then blast the articles with 10k scrapebox blast, and bookmark the web 2.0's 5 times each. I ping all of the links. I also use a private blog network, and I drip feed 5 posts every 3 days. I use spun content in my articles/properties. I create the properties/articles manually. I bookmark the properties manually." I used to use SB/forum posts last year, but as Panda unrolled I moved to Web 2.0s, etc. So a variety
    13. Any other relevant comments. Not a MNS site, doesn't have Adsense on it. Used to get 200 UV/day now gets 10
     
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  3. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    1. Website Niche
    Company Website

    2. Age of website in months/years.
    About 8 months old.

    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site?
    Blackhat. I have had links built to it.

    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website?

    Maybe about 10-15?

    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week)
    No, the website is static.

    6. Is it an EMD?
    Yes

    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks?
    Yes

    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site?

    60% for KW1. 20% for KW2.

    9. Does your website have spun content on it?

    Absolutely not

    10. Has only the root domain been hit?
    No. The root domain + another subdomain that was acting as a landing page have been hit. No other pages have been hit.

    11. Describe the penalty you have received
    .

    [​IMG]

    Happened overnight.

    12. Describe your backlinking strategy.
    I used a combination of:


    • 125 social bookmarks
    • 5+ link pushes for each page
    • Bronze/Silver link pyramids from Shadowcat
    • the G-BUSTER package

    This, for every page.

    13. Any other relevant comments
    This is a business website that is selling a product. Its not a spammy blog. It has perfect onsite SEO.
     
  4. tedchang8592

    tedchang8592 Regular Member

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    1. Website Niche
    home garden

    2. Age of website in months/years.
    1

    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site?
    hard to define, several profile links, some blog commenting, i haven't build any link for about 10 months

    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website?
    5-10 pages

    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week)
    no

    6. Is it an EMD?
    yes

    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks?
    a little

    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site?
    less diversity

    9. Does your website have spun content on it?
    several

    10. Has only the root domain been hit?
    almost all pages

    11. Describe the penalty you have received. E.g. "I have 5 core keywords. Keyword 1 dropped from #3 to #46. Keyword 2 has dropped from #5 to no where to be found..." etc etc.
    from top 5(18K) to 500+

    12. Describe your backlinking strategy. E.g. "I create 5 web 2.0's. I then create 10 articles and link them to the web 2.0's. I then blast the articles with 10k scrapebox blast, and bookmark the web 2.0's 5 times each. I ping all of the links. I also use a private blog network, and I drip feed 5 posts every 3 days. I use spun content in my articles/properties. I create the properties/articles manually. I bookmark the properties manually."
    profile, commenting, bookmarking everypage
     
  5. bhspiderz

    bhspiderz Registered Member

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    1. Website Niche
    Not going to say specific(Landscaping,outdoors)


    2. Age of website in months/years.
    9 Months


    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site?
    Site was white hat, External SEO backlinks grey hatish. AMR, SB, 1 SENuke run


    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website?
    20 pages of 700 words+ English hand typed by me.


    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week)
    1 Article a month


    6. Is it an EMD?
    Yes it was EMD .com


    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks?
    For AMR and SENuke I copied spun content and re-spun it. SB was copied related article sections spun


    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site?
    First 2 months maybe 1%. Last 7 months more like 90%.


    9. Does your website have spun content on it?
    No


    10. Has only the root domain been hit?
    No all pages were hit


    11. Describe the penalty you have received. E.g. "I have 5 core keywords. Keyword 1 dropped from #3 to #46. Keyword 2 has dropped from #5 to no where to be found..." etc etc.
    Top 10 = 13 keywords -> Now All Dropped from Top 100.
    Total site = 31 Keywords -> Now All but 6 dropped from top 100. The six Position 20 - 90


    12. Describe your backlinking strategy. E.g. "I create 5 web 2.0's. I then create 10 articles and link them to the web 2.0's. I then blast the articles with 10k scrapebox blast, and bookmark the web 2.0's 5 times each. I ping all of the links. I also use a private blog network, and I drip feed 5 posts every 3 days. I use spun content in my articles/properties. I create the properties/articles manually. I bookmark the properties manually."
    Made about 117 Web2.0(SENuke spun copied spun articles) to Money site. Blasted everything with SB including money site. Not a lot of anchor text diversity.
    Used AMR copied spun articles and spun them. Links back direct to money site.


    13. Any other relevant comments
    That is pretty much it. All links I did not ping. I let them either get found or they just died. Others may bend their story to fit a more "not my fault model" not me. Once I saw the ramblings I knew my site was done fore. I am the exact example of what they were targeting. MEH I got my money back from the site and I will let it ride out this wave just to see what happens. Pretty much did the above cycle about once a month except SENuke F their monthly fee lol.


    I know this stuff won't help because I did pretty much everything everyone says not to do. The difference between me and the ones crying about this is that I know what my outcome was eventually going to be and I don't beat around the bush.​

    On a side note I did do the exact same to another 2 word keyword domain that I started up and pointed to commission junction. But not any conversions... Anyway I only did the above mentioned cycle 2 times with only one SENuke blast for around 50 web2.0. That was sitting at position 9 yesterday. Today number 2 just below a Youtube video.... That site is 4 months old. I did cycles from day 1.





     
  6. crashdi

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    Guys, please don't mind; but i think this is a bad idea.

    google's team is obviously researching on about the affect and this thread will give them all the data they need

    I personally think we should wait for 1 week and after things are settled down, work on this plan
     
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  7. aneurysm

    aneurysm Newbie

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    exactly...

    mods should delete this topic
     
  8. gamemerlin

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    1. Website Niche
    Electronics

    2. Age of website in months/years.
    9 Months

    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site?
    Site white hat original content. Less than 20 articles. I would say thin aff site. All backlinks blackhat.

    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website?
    20 pages of 500 words original articles. Pretty high quality bought from various article writing services.

    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week)
    No did not update for months

    6. Is it an EMD?
    Yes it was EMD .com

    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks?
    Yes. All my links were Private Blog network links. I was in ALN and did well before they got nuked. Then I tried other networks, was coming back until yesterday.

    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site?
    90% +.

    9. Does your website have spun content on it?
    No

    10. Has only the root domain been hit?
    Don't know.

    11. Describe the penalty you have received. E.g. "I have 5 core keywords. Keyword 1 dropped from #3 to #46. Keyword 2 has dropped from
    Targeted 2 keywords position changed as follows
    KW 1 main, #20 => 400s
    KW 2, => 150

    12. Describe your backlinking strategy.
    Exclusively private blog network. I used various networks but all used spun content. I bought private blog services here, i assume they used spun content too.

    13. Any other relevant comments
     
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  9. gamemerlin

    gamemerlin Junior Member

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    Ahh... i'm pretty sure google knows what is going on with their serps:p

     
  10. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    I doubt our survey will be helping them with their algorithim. If mods actually suspect it would - feel free to delete these threads :)
     
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  11. accelerator_dd

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    I'll only post the stats for a site that I can't explain myself why it went down, bh stuff is clear

    1. Website Niche
    Everyday Accessories


    2. Age of website in months/years.
    4 months



    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site?
    grayhat
    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website?
    more than 80 500+ words posts


    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week)
    No


    6. Is it an EMD?
    No

    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks?
    Sometimes


    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site?
    20% or so i'd say

    9. Does your website have spun content on it?
    No

    10. Has only the root domain been hit?
    No


    11. Describe the penalty you have received. E.g. "I have 5 core keywords. Keyword 1 dropped from #3 to #46. Keyword 2 has dropped from #5 to no where to be found..." etc etc.
    Almost all keywords have lost some 10-30 spots


    12. Describe your backlinking strategy. E.g. "I create 5 web 2.0's. I then create 10 articles and link them to the web 2.0's. I then blast the articles with 10k scrapebox blast, and bookmark the web 2.0's 5 times each. I ping all of the links. I also use a private blog network, and I drip feed 5 posts every 3 days. I use spun content in my articles/properties. I create the properties/articles manually. I bookmark the properties manually."
    I basically didn't do much backlinking to this site. Some pyramids, some BMR posts (gets interesting - read on).


    13. Any other relevant comments
    Fun fact to point you in the right direction and confuse you as hell - The page i ranked #3 with BMR alone kept its rank even post update. ;)

    This was a test site and now it proved its purpose

    Some might ask why a test site of 80 posts, well for best stats, simple 10 pages websites are the low end, i still needed the high end.

    where's the other thread for people not hit?
     
  12. viv3k

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    1. Website Niche -Family-Babies

    2. Age of website in months/years. 13 months

    3. Would you call it a white hat site, or a black hat site? - White Hat. Used few Scrape Blasts though

    4. How many pages of legit content (300+ words) is on your website? - around 25 articles all originally written by myself

    5. Do you update content regularly (add a new article at least once a week) - Yes once a week or so

    6. Is it an EMD? NO

    7. Do you use spun content in your backlinks? YES

    8. What is the keyword density in links linking back to your money site?

    9. Does your website have spun content on it? NO

    10. Has only the root domain been hit? No Every Page

    11. Describe the penalty you have received. For main keyword it was at number 11 on second page. and for other keywords it was on 17,26,33 places. Now for main keyword it is at 66. rest are gone.

    12. Describe your backlinking strategy. I used to create social network backlinks using senukex and blasted the social networks with SB list. Sometimes blast the main page with wiki links. In last 15 days... i did not touched the site even. no backlinks.. nothing whatsoever.
    13. Any other relevant comments. Although many pages are disappeared but the page rank is intact. it is still PR2 site.
     
  13. ComputerEngineer

    ComputerEngineer Senior Member

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    I did not got hit. I am not owning a blog. It is a website which has been developed by me from scratch. It is made for users not for ads.
    I never used any paid service. I only own sb and the tools i developed my self.
     
  14. moose123

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    im pretty sure there someone from google on this forum getting info, and your giving more
     
  15. maykino

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    I run a company that offers SEO and all of my clients are good after the update but my main page which is not created for ads. I think that in some cases it's just a mistake...