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Stop Making Bullsh&t Theories!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by LukaB, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. LukaB

    LukaB Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    God it's so annoying to see hundreds of threads being made all over the money making forums saying

    Is Google dieng?
    Will Bing beat Google?
    Is PR Dead?
    This SE will beat Google?

    It's really annoying, all over the forums, WF/DP (2 shitty forums ofc) and on BHW I think too! (few threads I think).


    GOOGLE IS NOT DEAD, IT WON'T DIE
     
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  2. altschule

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    Oh yes it will. That's my theory anyway.
     
  3. kez1000

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    If lies are told long enough they become the truth in the eyes of the people after a short period of time.
     
  4. extremephp

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    Google is Not Dead - Yes, I agree!

    It Wont Die - Dont be damn Sure on it!! :)

    ~ExP~
     
  5. fvcktheworld

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    In my experience on a forum you need to just ignore the threads that bother you. Honestly how much energy and time did you waste starting this thread? About the same amount that I am wasting replying to it.

    Though, I think people should think more. This forum use to be all about making money online/offline. Now it has come to the point about bitching about other threads about Google.

    Neither YOU or anyone else can see the future, so how do you know this will or won't happen? How do they know? You and They Don't KNOW!

    Just get back to work and make some more money.

    End Rant!
     
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  6. jonnyquest

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    Your theory on theories is just that one big f'n theory ... isn't it? :)
     
  7. deviatus

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    Google doesn't have a complete monopoly, most people think they have a 90%+ SE market share, but it's 70% and stagnant.

    I predict they will be the major player, retaining at least 60% market share for the next 10 years. But as long as Google is holding at 70%, conspiracy theorists have to shut up.
     
  8. LukaB

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    I am not wasting my energy, ran over many of those.
     
  9. dunhill

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    Just ignore it.. Focus on making money .. :D
     
  10. Monrox

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    Some math freak will come up with a new idea to automatically judge relevancy better for the same server cost and it will be the next big thing. Nothing new here. Huge companies take a long time to die. I was a hotbot fan (the killer of altavista's algo) and it was bigger than g in the internet scale back then. They are nobody now.

    Be sure to track most new stuff btw, you never know what is going to take off eventually and it's good to be prepared. I try to rank on all the new whohahs that pop every 2-3 months and never felt sorry.
     
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  11. S7apster

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    You can't tell people to stop making bullshit theories when our whole business is fundamentally speculative.
     
  12. Yukinari84

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    This pretty much sums it up. The majority of the people that are making complaints about Google are most likely doing so because they can't make it work for them and are frustrated.

    If they want to bitch and moan and waste their time rather buckle down and learn to make it work, I say let them. It won't have any effect on Google at all.

    As for Google dying...although you can never be 100% about anything, I don't foresee anything happening to them for a very long time except more growth. They are not just a search engine anymore. Google is one of the largest most influential corporations today. They are continually expanding, and in some cases leading, a lot of the next generation technology in many different areas..

    Just look at their acquisition history:

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    The next big things that are just being rolled out are Google TV and smart TV technology. Google has teamed up with Intel and Sony and this, and the possibilities with it are huge. Don't forget mobile marketing. Google owns one of the top mobile advertising companies as well.

    It won't be long before Google's broadband service comes out either. That will be another huge change.

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    Again, nothing is ever 100% certain, but it will take a hell of a lot to make even a dent in Google's growth IMHO.
     
  13. marc3777

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    Well I read all the replies so I might as well contribute my .02 worth of theory.

    I don't think G is going away anytime soon. However, historically in business, people eventually tend to "fall out of love" with the biggest player. Whether it be because of stock prices, resentment that they control so much or whatever.

    A couple big examples are Krispy Kreme and Starbucks. McDonalds timing with their coffees was perfect and took a major share of the market.

    Right now personally Im not too fond of Google forcing local results in my face for every search I do. So G aint going away, but I'd certainly bet they lose some market share when the public feels its time
     
  14. flibbertigibbet

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    Yeah I don't think they'll be dying out anytime soon either. It is rather annoying when people say this. Google is comprised of a LOT of really smart, young folks who know how to ride trends and be creative. They have their hand in a lot of pies, much like another poster said. They have all kinds of moble apps, toolbars, map programs, deliver up-to-date news, recently merged with YouTube, and so many more things. Check out their list of acquisitions here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Google . They'll be around for awhile. ;) Google is not a Starbucks or Krispy Kreme, either.... they're the best that's available as far as finding what you need on the internet. Until someone invents a better algorithim, they're going to stay on top. Much like Microsoft. ;)
     
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    i agree, i filter it out with out knowing when browsing
     
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    whine threads are worse than theory threads, imo. at least theory threads provide entertainment value (the crazy theory ones) or shock/humor value (the stupid ones).
     
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    This internet thing is just a fad really...
     
  19. GreyWolf

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    That made me laugh. I wonder who's gonna buy that ticket. I think I'd wait till they make it round trip. LOL.

    Back on topic though... it doesn't really matter if google is gaining ground, being stagnant, or losing ground. The idea that Google will "never die" is a pretty strong position to take, but it's certainly not dead now. For anytime in the near future it's still the big player to be concerned with. As far as the new start-up SEs, well it's always a good idea to hedge your bets. It won't hurt anything to work on a good serp positions in all the SEs. Google might send the most traffic, but traffic from the rest is still worth having as well.

    I think this thread would have been a better topic for the Lounge though.:china:
     
  20. Monrox

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    It seems that not many people are aware of the principle of diminishing returns: the more a company grows the less profit it makes per point of growth. It never reaches zero but it makes you more and more sensitive to external factors meaning you can go down much easier. This is the reason why MS backed down eventually and settled for 60-70% market share instead of doing everything they can to stay at 90%.

    First a significant portion of the hordes of viruses and exploits got redirected to rivals and also users got the chance to see that the other browsers, OSes and Office packages were not exactly crème de la crème as hyped.

    As to g I really don't see where did they actually succeed themselves apart from the great idea that links can be used to decide on relevancy. From video sharing, social media and code repositories to answers platform it had all miserably failed. Heck, even their cookie tracking had to be done by somebody else (urchin). And the biggest autoblog in existance is their news aggregation which is pretty good for spamming btw.

    They compensate their failures by acquiring but this is never healthy in the long run as consumers hate monopolies more than anything else and it will backfire eventually.

    It has not come to dying yet but if anyone thinks the search results are getting better and not worse, well, they should be left alone in missing the obvious. People are figuring more and more ways to cheat the system and rank high and I don't see any new critera being introduced that actually help filter out the bad hits. All is talk in the lines of 'you just wait till the next update and you'll see'.

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    Lastly as many of us know, the traffic from other SEs is a lot smaller but it converts a lot better. I'd trade 10k g visitors for 1000 bing visitors any time.
     
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