spyguyzz failed to deliver on time and now he is refusing to refund.

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Seller Profile: https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/spyguyzz.276268/


Proof the other party has been informed of this shit list:
I have informed the seller about my intention to create a shit list against him, and he gave me permission to create one and he also refused to refund. Here is the SCREENSHOT PROOF where I informed him.


Proof of Contact:
Nothing to mention to this point I think because the seller himself refused to refund by responding to the PM I have given as screenshot above. Also, our total conversation (deal) held through PM. However, here is the SCREENSHOT PROOF that he refused to refund and gave me permission to create this shit list. So there was no need for me to "reasonable form of contact before opening the shit list thread".


Summary of Dispute:
I've first contacted spyguyzz on 25th Sep 2020. Asked him about the prices and discounts. From 25th Sep 2020 to 8th Oct 2020, we have talked about many things about the order which we didn't understand and we together figured out the solution. Please note, at this point, that we had a long conversation (from 25th Sep to 8th Oct) because I'm a middleman and I didn't understand many things which my client wanted. So I discussed those with spyguyzz before taking the order from my client.

The first incident occurred was right after I took the order from my client. spyguyzz increased his price without any notice. How unprofessional is this? I calmed myself down and handled the situation professionally because I have to keep my promise to my client. So I paid spyguyzz extra to keep the ball rolling. But this is not the actual case, but it is relevant to how unprofessional he is. Please read on...

The main problem starts here, the reason why I've created this shitlist.

We also talked about the delivery time because the buyer wanted the work to be done within 5-7 days and I asked spyguyzz if he can do it, he said "YES". Here is the proof when I asked him and when the seller agreed to it. Doesn't "delivery time" fall into TOS, in order agreement? The seller agreed with the delivery time so I did agree with the buyer, if not I wouldn't agree with the buyer I would have asked for more time, right? or even denied the order if we didn't agree with the delivery time, right? When I confirmed the buyer about his delivery time, the buyer placed the order almost immediately.

On 8th Oct 2020, I asked the seller to provide me his BTC address so that I can transfer the money to him. This is the same day when the original buyer placed the order. After this, the seller played that nasty game which I mentioned earlier (price increasing game), and for this, two days have been lost for nothing. So on 10th Oct 2020, I transferred the money to the seller and the seller started to work. Note that, from the original order, 2 days have been gone.

After I placed the order to the seller, I saw a new face of the seller. His responding time started to decrease gradually and it became a nightmare for me at the ending times. I saw him reply to his new potential clients (those who posts in his sales thread) but he doesn't reply to me on time, always late, always kept me waiting.

On 12th Oct 2020, the seller sent me the 10 Answer Links and 10 Drafted Articles for Quora Blog via Telegram to check. On the very same day, I informed (marked in red) him about the issue. This was not my revision but an error from his work.

Another 2 days passed without a reply from the seller.

from this time everything started to fall apart, the seller became lazier, desperate, and not willing to solve the problems, etc... IMO!

On 14th Oct 2020, the seller replied asking the links with problems. The same day I informed him about the errors from his side.

Again 2 days gone without reply.

On 16th Oct 2020, the seller informed me about a mistake I made. Then, here was my reply. I accepted my mistake and told him that I'd pay more and that he should fix it. It was an additional order for him and was not like a revision. And that would just take him a few hours to fix possibly. I say this because he gave me 20 articles to check within 2 days. And here we are talking about only 2 which needed to fix.

If you notice at this point, that the seller already failed to deliver on time. The delivery date should be 15th Oct 2020 if we count from 8th Oct 2020.
But if we count from 10th Oct 2020 the day when I paid him after his price increasing game, then the delivery date should be 17th Oct 2020. In this case, the seller had only 1 day left at this point.
Just check how many messages I have sent him to push him to complete the work. Please note, there are too many messages, that is why I'm not providing SS at this point. I hope investigating MOD will check this if needed.

Above all my efforts, I gave him extra 3 days, till 20th Oct 2020 night to complete. To that date, I don't know how many messages I have sent to push him so that he completes the order on time and release me.
I'm not telling the part here how I felt, what went through between me and the original buyer. This is irrelevant here, but the truth is my buyer and I gave him time after time to complete the work but he never respected us.


From this point, I don't want to write anything else or give any screenshots because of the following reasons,

1. there are so many messages like I'm pushing him to complete the work.
2. there are messages where I pointed out his new mistakes which he made during corrections of old mistakes. This happened a couple of times.
3. Due to the emotion, I insulted him once or twice, but I don't want to bring this into public to insult him more. Moreover, he complained about this to the MOD and I already earned warning points.


My earnest request to the Investigating MOD, please read all the conversations to know the complete picture. Such as, to know the efforts I have given to get this work done.


Evidence of the Issue:
Some or All pieces of evidence are provided above in form of screenshots.


What you hope to gain from this shit list.
I want a full refund without any question asked because I gave him enough extra time to complete the work. On top of that, I was begging him to complete the work on time.

I want to know how many were delivered that did not need revisions.

I know of 2 that did need revisions.

It is a simple question.
Yes, that's 18, which did not need revisions.
 
@spyguyzz - you have 48 hours to respond to these 2 issues.

Shit List Request Approved
Information For The Accused Accused, you have 48 hours to respond to this shit list thread. If you do not respond within 48 hours, the decision will be made in favour of the Shit Lister and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using support.blackhatworld.com only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested.

Please note that even in the event of a refund, you will also be required to maintain your marketplace thread. If you need to temporarily close your sales threads until you can manage your customers, you may do so by request. Information For The Accused & The Shit Lister Please remain professional as name calling, insults, tu quoque, and ad hominem will not be tolerated. Should the Shit Lister resort to this, the dispute will be forfeit; and if the accused resorts to this, the dispute will automatically be in the Shit Lister's favour.

The moderator mediating this dispute is simply trying to fair a resolution to this dispute. Any mod abuse or accusations (e.g., "you're biased", "you're protecting scammers", etc) directed toward the moderator will not be tolerated and may result in an infraction for mod abuse. Information For Other Members If anyone else has the same issue with the accused, you may respond so long as you supply evidence in the form of screenshots, videos, etc. Please bear in mind Shit List rule #4 before responding.

"If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread. Anyone caught doing so will receive an infraction and be reply banned from posting in the thread."
 
OMG Woow he still arguing with that

@BassTrackerBoats Dear BTB, I hope you are doing well and sorry for disturbing you

Well done, Let's finish this case in concise points:

1- First of all, I only got paid on 10 October, and the TAT was 5-7 days.
2- I have delivered the work on time but guess what he had made a mistake and was forcing me to fix it on a time basis which I never agreed with. (screen attached below)
3- It was 16 October Already, and I never promised him that I would fix his mistake on his 12-15 hours.
4- I was trying my best to help out, but we all have a life, and I have a lot of other buyers processing their orders to fulfil on time also. (do I delay other clients orders for the mistake he made?)
5- He kept pushing me like if I only work for him, and I'm his doll, and he insulted me 2 times.

Conclusion:
I didn't make anything wrong, and it was his mistake in these duplicated questions, and he confessed below and definitely if he didn't make that mistake everything was to going good as always.
I'm not responsible for his mistakes and insulted me 2 times and asking for a refund? Convince me, please
(with my all respect to the forum rules as I see he the one who should get punished not me) because no one would like to get insulted like that


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OMG Woow he still arguing with that

@BassTrackerBoats Dear BTB, I hope you are doing well and sorry for disturbing you

Well done, Let's finish this case in concise points:

1- First of all, I only got paid on 10 October, and the TAT was 5-7 days.
2- I have delivered the work on time but guess what he had made a mistake and was forcing me to fix it on a time basis which I never agreed with. (screen attached below)
3- It was 16 October Already, and I never promised him that I would fix his mistake on his 12-15 hours.
4- I was trying my best to help out, but we all have a life, and I have a lot of other buyers processing their orders to fulfil on time also. (do I delay other clients orders for the mistake he made?)
5- He kept pushing me like if I only work for him, and I'm his doll, and he insulted me 2 times.

Conclusion:
I didn't make anything wrong, and it was his mistake in these duplicated questions, and he confessed below and definitely if he didn't make that mistake everything was to going good as always.
I'm not responsible for his mistakes and insulted me 2 times and asking for a refund? Convince me, please
(with my all respect to the forum rules as I see he the one who should get punished not me) because no one would like to get insulted like that


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He received 18 of 20 on time according to all I read so you owe him a partial refund for the 2 not delivered properly.
 
He received 18 of 20 on time according to all I read so you owe him a partial refund for the 2 not delivered properly.
Thanks for your prompt reply, Actually I did deliver the 20 on time according to the info he submitted not 18, but his mistake was behind the delay of those 2 answers.
(he did make a mistake and sent me wrong order details and that's not on my responsibility and i fixed it for him for free without charging any fees and of course, it took a long time because he realized that mistake late)
 
Thanks for your prompt reply, Actually I did deliver the 20 on time according to the info he submitted not 18, but his mistake was behind the delay of those 2 answers.
(he did make a mistake and sent me wrong order details and that's not on my responsibility and i fixed it for him for free without charging any fees and of course, it took a long time because he realized that mistake late)

From all that I read you failed to handle 2 of them properly and he deserves a refund for those 2.

Please refund him those 2.

SL resolved and waiting for the seller to follow through.
 
From all that I read you failed to handle 2 of them properly and he deserves a refund for those 2.

Please refund him those 2.

SL resolved and waiting for the seller to follow through.
I didn't fail to deliver 2 of them
I did deliver the 20 on time but after that, he said oh I made a mistake please fix that before the deadline it was already 24 hours before the deadline! (why I'm supposed to sustain his mistake? Kindly explain)

it's just a few bucks so I don't have a problem with the refund but why you want me to feel guilty and accept his refund request by anyway?
 
I didn't fail to deliver 2 of them
I did deliver the 20 on time but after that, he said oh I made a mistake please fix that before the deadline it was already 24 hours before the deadline! (why I'm supposed to sustain his mistake? Kindly explain)

it's just a few bucks so I don't have a problem with the refund but why you want me to feel guilty and accept his refund request by anyway?

You both acted like insolent children in that PM exchange and it made my eyes bleed reading it.

And you are working your way to that as well with your "feel guilty" thing as I never said anything of the like.

Should you continue to make this a personal thing, now with me, I'll not only warn you but I'll close any sales threads you have.

REFUND HIM!
 
As you wish, discussion is over!

@BassTrackerBoats Sorry for wasting your time

I will refund him $4 once he send me his BTC address or Paypal email
 
Sorry for my late reply because I had a serious migraine headache yesterday. So I couldn't work and look at the PC screen.
Now I'll try to answer his reply and BTB's...

OMG Woow he still arguing with that

@BassTrackerBoats Dear BTB, I hope you are doing well and sorry for disturbing you

Well done, Let's finish this case in concise points:

1- First of all, I only got paid on 10 October, and the TAT was 5-7 days.
2- I have delivered the work on time but guess what he had made a mistake and was forcing me to fix it on a time basis which I never agreed with. (screen attached below)
3- It was 16 October Already, and I never promised him that I would fix his mistake on his 12-15 hours.
4- I was trying my best to help out, but we all have a life, and I have a lot of other buyers processing their orders to fulfil on time also. (do I delay other clients orders for the mistake he made?)
5- He kept pushing me like if I only work for him, and I'm his doll, and he insulted me 2 times.

Conclusion:
I didn't make anything wrong, and it was his mistake in these duplicated questions, and he confessed below and definitely if he didn't make that mistake everything was to going good as always.
I'm not responsible for his mistakes and insulted me 2 times and asking for a refund? Convince me, please
(with my all respect to the forum rules as I see he the one who should get punished not me) because no one would like to get insulted like that
So now you are a liar too?
Let me answer this case in concise points: Please read my answers in GREEN under his points.

1- First of all, I only got paid on 10 October, and the TAT was 5-7 days.
Yes, it's true, and thanks for confessing. See @BassTrackerBoats he failed to deliver me on time, even I have given him extra time. 5 days or 4 days or 3 days whichever you say...

2- I have delivered the work on time but guess what he had made a mistake and was forcing me to fix it on a time basis which I never agreed with. (screen attached below)
I don't know what is the definition of "Delivery" in your dictionary. "Delivery" will be granted from both sides when there are no issues... When a seller delivers, it goes for revision and the revision comes from the buyer... After you fixed the issues that the buyer asked you then it will be called "Delivery", if not, then it will go for further revisions until it is fixed.

Requesting & forcing are two different things. So please anyone see that message which he has given as SS and tell me if you find that I am forcing him? I agreed with my mistake and requested him to fix it and I also said I will pay him.

So what about the mistakes you made, you are telling half of the story here which was about my mistake. And you are telling here that you didn't agree.
Here is the
proof that you agreed and there were 2 issues total, 1 from him and 1 from me which he agreed to fix both.

3- It was 16 October Already, and I never promised him that I would fix his mistake on his 12-15 hours.
From 14th to 19th Oct, you just wasted my time. On 19th Oct you officially agreed to fix the issues and before that what you have posted, only God knows the reason. If you ask me then I will say you just wasted my time... Anyway, here is the screenshot from 14th Oct to 19th Oct, so that everyone can decide what is what. I have been always transparent and I'm not a liar.

4- I was trying my best to help out, but we all have a life, and I have a lot of other buyers processing their orders to fulfil on time also. (do I delay other clients orders for the mistake he made?)
Only God knows what is the definition of "I was trying my best to help out". If you have given the slightest effort then the order would have finished by 16th Oct IMO because you have given me 20 answer & blog posts to check within 2 days but you couldn't fix only 2 issues within 6 days.

If others are your buyers, then what I was for you? A beggar who came to you for charity?
You are always busy to catch new fish, instead of taking care of old fish which you already have in your hold.


5- He kept pushing me like if I only work for him, and I'm his doll, and he insulted me 2 times.
If you did what was needed to complete the work on time,
If you have responded always on time,
If you have respected your buyer, instead of treating him like a beggar

then the day wouldn't come right when is your buyer insulting you? It was you who invited the Insult to come to your door, not me.


Conclusion:
My dispute is very clear, he failed to deliver and I want a full refund.
I have given enough proof and I always been honest & transparent from the start, whereas the seller was dishonest and lying all along.

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He received 18 of 20 on time according to all I read so you owe him a partial refund for the 2 not delivered properly.
My dear brother @BassTrackerBoats I respect you very much and I also respect all the rules of the forum. I know I said something which I shouldn't and I already apologized.

When you were interrogating me, you asked me a question that I didn't answer straight because I knew where probably it is leading. So my assumption was right and here it is. I don't know how do I access that page again, if I have the access then I would have quoted here.

My brother, I respect your judgment. But either it has to be a Full Refund or No Refund at all. But please forgive me, I cannot accept any partial refund.
I will say it again, I didn't receive anything because the seller failed to deliver on time and I rejected the order by informing him that I will reject the order even then he didn't act responsibly.
 
Sorry for my late reply because I had a serious migraine headache yesterday. So I couldn't work and look at the PC screen.
Now I'll try to answer his reply and BTB's...


So now you are a liar too?
Let me answer this case in concise points: Please read my answers in GREEN under his points.

1- First of all, I only got paid on 10 October, and the TAT was 5-7 days.
Yes, it's true, and thanks for confessing. See @BassTrackerBoats he failed to deliver me on time, even I have given him extra time. 5 days or 4 days or 3 days whichever you say...

2- I have delivered the work on time but guess what he had made a mistake and was forcing me to fix it on a time basis which I never agreed with. (screen attached below)
I don't know what is the definition of "Delivery" in your dictionary. "Delivery" will be granted from both sides when there are no issues... When a seller delivers, it goes for revision and the revision comes from the buyer... After you fixed the issues that the buyer asked you then it will be called "Delivery", if not, then it will go for further revisions until it is fixed.

Requesting & forcing are two different things. So please anyone see that message which he has given as SS and tell me if you find that I am forcing him? I agreed with my mistake and requested him to fix it and I also said I will pay him.

So what about the mistakes you made, you are telling half of the story here which was about my mistake. And you are telling here that you didn't agree.
Here is the
proof that you agreed and there were 2 issues total, 1 from him and 1 from me which he agreed to fix both.

3- It was 16 October Already, and I never promised him that I would fix his mistake on his 12-15 hours.
From 14th to 19th Oct, you just wasted my time. On 19th Oct you officially agreed to fix the issues and before that what you have posted, only God knows the reason. If you ask me then I will say you just wasted my time... Anyway, here is the screenshot from 14th Oct to 19th Oct, so that everyone can decide what is what. I have been always transparent and I'm not a liar.

4- I was trying my best to help out, but we all have a life, and I have a lot of other buyers processing their orders to fulfil on time also. (do I delay other clients orders for the mistake he made?)
Only God knows what is the definition of "I was trying my best to help out". If you have given the slightest effort then the order would have finished by 16th Oct IMO because you have given me 20 answer & blog posts to check within 2 days but you couldn't fix only 2 issues within 6 days.

If others are your buyers, then what I was for you? A beggar who came to you for charity?
You are always busy to catch new fish, instead of taking care of old fish which you already have in your hold.


5- He kept pushing me like if I only work for him, and I'm his doll, and he insulted me 2 times.
If you did what was needed to complete the work on time,
If you have responded always on time,
If you have respected your buyer, instead of treating him like a beggar

then the day wouldn't come right when is your buyer insulting you? It was you who invited the Insult to come to your door, not me.


Conclusion:
My dispute is very clear, he failed to deliver and I want a full refund.
I have given enough proof and I always been honest & transparent from the start, whereas the seller was dishonest and lying all along.

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My dear brother @BassTrackerBoats I respect you very much and I also respect all the rules of the forum. I know I said something which I shouldn't and I already apologized.

When you were interrogating me, you asked me a question that I didn't answer straight because I knew where probably it is leading. So my assumption was right and here it is. I don't know how do I access that page again, if I have the access then I would have quoted here.

My brother, I respect your judgment. But either it has to be a Full Refund or No Refund at all. But please forgive me, I cannot accept any partial refund.
I will say it again, I didn't receive anything because the seller failed to deliver on time and I rejected the order by informing him that I will reject the order even then he didn't act responsibly.

Then no refund as the order was not all or none.

@spyguyzz - no refund is required at this point as the accuser is not interested in the resolution.

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