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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mb460, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. mb460

    mb460 Newbie

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    Yeah, so i am fairly sure that i already know the answer to this before i ask it, and i'll bet the answer is:

    "If it smells like spam.... if it looks like spam.... if it can be even remotely considered spam... then it's most definitely Something Posing As Meat" and therefore, illegal.

    but, then why do i get 500 of these a day in my email? how are they getting away with it?

    I digress.... TO THE POINT:

    I purchased 6 domains in the last week, and made the mistake of using an actual email address, albeit one that i largely use for catching spam, but, some legit email comes there, so i hate having my inbox flooded with junk. I use that email to sign up for websites which may in turn sell my info, therefore, some useful info comes there, and it's a pain in the butt sifting through everything. I had to switch to an "only spam" email address, because, about 500 different companies scraped the WHOIS databases, got my email and are offering me every service under the sun now across 2 different email addresses, because several of the first ones are still sending spam to the first address and then sold the email to god knows how many others....

    sooooo.... my point isn't how to get rid of them, or how to get the list, I have that covered... after about 45 minutes of research, i figured that out and i have a list of nearly 4 million emails from freshly registered domains over the last 30 days. (31 now)

    My question is, how do i do what they are doing, and blast out potentially millions of emails...or even 500-1000-5000 a day of the most likely ones (after filtering out those with chinese characters, and some that look like obvious spam domains) without getting arrested or fined billions of dollars or something ridiculous. Obviously, the info is public domain, it's on a national registry, and it is technically put there for people to be able to contact them about 1 of the 4 tabs you have to fill out when registering... but since they didn't opt in to my email, it, in my limited knowledge of the spam act, is illegal to send them anything offering services for say, logo design, keyword optimization, blah blah....


    or, more aptly put, is there anyone here who i can pay to send them out? There would be too much of a learning curve for me to do it, and sometimes it's just better to pay someone who does it already. win/win

    with that said, mailchimp has already banned me, and i haven't even signed up yet! (not literally, but you get the point).

    thoughts, advice, etc??? I am in the process of putting my site(s) together and, would love to be able to reach 4 million spam boxes at once and maybe get 1% of them to throw money at me.

    Honestly, i don't think it's infeasible, if only for the reason that i literally have 39 spam emails in my box since 10am this morning, and it's 4pm now... so, it's possible, and i doubt they are getting in trouble for it any time soon.

    p.s. i don't necessarily think that going to the spam box is a bad thing, most browsers / email services / etc have such strict guidelines about what is or isn't spam, that, the spam folder basically acts like what an inbox used to be about 15 years ago. you get premium emails in the "inbox" and then you get all of your IMPORTANT emails, jump mail, scam emails, spam emails, porn emails, MLM emails, etc in your junk folder... in other words, people STILL look at their junk folders nearly as often as their inbox, because a lot of important emails go there.

    The second part of my journey would have to be figuring out how NOT to trigger spam filters in my emails anyway, to keep from getting banned with whoever i'm sending through
     
  2. Automated

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    While I don't condone spam... you can try and get in contact with one of the people spamming you and figure out how they are doing it... :)
     
  3. mb460

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    The irony about this statement, is that i actually have contacted about 10 of these guys, but, as you might imagine, they send emails and vanish like a fart in the wind. which, of course, adds to the whole negative aspect of spam, as they obviously made the transition from spammer to scammer pretty quicklike. actually, that may not be true, they may just not want to answer me. for all they know, i'm FBI. lol

    and honestly, i don't condone spam either, and, i'm reading the can-spam act.. that whole part about 16,000$ per email? yeah... pretty big deterrent... so, how are these people getting away with it!? lol
     
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  4. KHer0

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    First, you won't find any good resources here cuz people here like to stay on the line. Go to hack forums and you will find a lot of resources. But, trust me, spamming isn't easy business. It's not like pushing a button to get results. However, many people in the marketplace (hack forums blackmarket) offer spamming as a service
     
  5. lostandfound86

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    Two thumbs up to you, mate!
     
  6. 2DHades

    2DHades Power Member

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    If you send 4 million spam emails, and get 1% to convert, you'd be the wolf of the internet. Good luck!
     
  7. Ambitious12

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    Your post smell likes SPAM,that's why I do not want to read this fully anymore.
     
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  8. Aty

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    Stop wondering why and how. You are wasting precious time. Go make some money.
     
  9. mb460

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    ((((cordially JOKING of course))))

    saying you won't find anyone on a black hat forum who will do shady things is kind of like how strip clubs will tell you that their women "aren't like that" but my buddy always manages to find women willing to make a little extra money after work.

    (((all joking aside))))
    i DO appreciate the input! i do find it valuable and i've moved past the idea of spamming and onto better things. Maybe holding up a sign at the nearest intersection, but i may have to fight brenda for the spot... her kids really are losing weight. She's not though.

    (((ok maybe some joking)))

    anyway, really... thank you guys.
     
  10. TyphoonAgency

    TyphoonAgency Regular Member

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    What you're attempting to do is a bigger deal legally than most people think. Organizations like spamhaus love to set people up with thousands of emails they control. So you could easily be falling into their trap. So I would focus on legit business instead.
     
  11. mb460

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    already moved past it. thank you
     
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  12. Boriss

    Boriss Supreme Member

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    Check this out:
    Stealing Profits from Spammers or: How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Spam
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytDamqTjPwg
     
  13. blackbeans

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    I agree with the poster above.

    If you want to get to the bottom of spamming techniques that actually work, study spammers that routinely hit your inbox.

    By studying their headers and tell-tale signs like proxy usage and routing system, certain patterns may emerge.

    The other approach would be to use content and social media marketing to get leads.

    I know this might not be the answer you are looking for, but for a more sustainable model in getting in touch with businesses, I suggest going this route.