Soundcloud Threatening to take me down

WHOIS guard just hides the information of the domain owner, it doesn't hide the information related to the Web host, IP, name servers and more. Rather, your website's URL is enough to know which hosting provider you're using. Some people use Cloudflare to tackle the issue. Basically when you start using Cloudflare, if and when people look for your hosting provider, they'll see Cloudflare. They then have to contact Cloudflare after which Cloudflare will contact you.

Whether or not Cloudflare chooses to respond to complainant is solely upon them. I've seen scammers using Cloudflare and getting away with scams, their site still remaining alive. But then in your case complainant isn't another random guy but a household name, so chances of Cloudflare responding to you are high.

Coming back to WHOIS, your information can be discovered even if you are behind WHOIS guard. If someone can find historical data related to your site, chances are they can discover the first whois record too, which in most cases is the info of the real owner.

So yes, an offshore hosting would be your best option. And about domain, offshore hosting providers like Shinjuru has an option to buy a domain that gives following features:

• Not under ICANN
• US Laws not applicable
• No DMCA Shutdown
• No Censorship

but it costs $35/year.

So you have to make decision for yourself. Good luck.

Brindrin Grin said:

WHOIS guard just hides the information of the domain owner, it doesn't hide the information related to the Web host, IP, name servers and more. Rather, your website's URL is enough to know which hosting provider you're using. Some people use Cloudflare to tackle the issue. Basically when you start using Cloudflare, if and when people look for your hosting provider, they'll see Cloudflare. They then have to contact Cloudflare after which Cloudflare will contact you.

Whether or not Cloudflare chooses to respond to complainant is solely upon them. I've seen scammers using Cloudflare and getting away with scams, their site still remaining alive. But then in your case complainant isn't another random guy but a household name, so chances of Cloudflare responding to you are high.

Coming back to WHOIS, your information can be discovered even if you are behind WHOIS guard. If someone can find historical data related to your site, chances are they can discover the first whois record too, which in most cases is the info of the real owner.

So yes, an offshore hosting would be your best option. And about domain, offshore hosting providers like Shinjuru has an option to buy a domain that gives following features:

• Not under ICANN
• US Laws not applicable
• No DMCA Shutdown
• No Censorship

but it costs $35/year.

So you have to make decision for yourself. Good luck.

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know exsplain what happen when your info is found
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might aswell you shown the ghost part know the bad part when caught.

the info might just help others to just think before taking quick money making actions.

redarrow said:

your going to be closed down hopefully you went ghost on info?

the problam is if you had any leaks in real info , even the people you sold to they might be one .

you no as a blackhat member that selling is ilegal so i exspect you to no the rules in ghosting .

stelth paypal
shop topups
offsure host account (( useing above ))
domain with fake info (( using above)) a .in
sms card using above))

if you got any leaks to your real info exspect problams , there no limit to what copywrite buget for solictors.

was you fully ghost ?

this is a warning if not fully ghost .

if you no you might if sold anythink to anybody with real info on , within the past month ,

i suggest , getting your laptop or computers and mobile phones and dump them but destoy the harddrives and all info .

i no this sounds really extravagant, but the copywrite police will smash your home up looking for everdence on anythink illegal ,
there even arest anybody in your home , and they dont beleve anyone that they didnt no about your activaties .

trading stadards are very strict and will traet you like shit with police and rip you and your family rooms to bits for everdence .

the police will freze all your bank accounts and a full invesrergation will happen.

everyone in your home will be arrested and cheek like a tooth brush .

your be sued and fined at the most possable rate possable they always go for huge cash sums .

sorry do the crime do the time

and yes at all real
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Dude what are you talking about, are you living in North Korea?? There is nothing illegal in selling followers and stuff, it's just against the platform's Terms & conditions lol.

It looks like you provide a lot of services and not just focused on Soundcloud. That's good. If I were in your shoes I'd see how much income I'm actually getting from selling Soundcloud services and see if it's worth it or not as your business doesn't depend solely on Soundcloud.

If you choose to continue it'd be worth it to closely look into the law and offshore hosting. @Asif WILSON Khan provided some good Google searches to read up on. I'd also consider a lawyer to check into this as well.

Also, don't quote me on this, but Soundcloud isn't doing so well financially so I doubt they're going to be dropping lawsuits on everyone selling Soundcloud services. Could be just a scare tactic. I know they were close to bankruptcy in 2017. You can check more here: https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/04/03/soundcloud-revenue-100-million/

Good luck

Scorpion Ghost said:

Other more established members above suggested offshore as something that would work.

I mean, once I move to offshore, even if they find my current hosting provider, it doesn't make a bit of difference since my site will now reside elsewhere.

But I'm unsure about the domain name registrar, if they can get to that. The site has been private whois from the beginning.

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Think a second about it. Yes you can move to new offshore hosting, and they can't find your name on that new host, but they can always look who owned last hosting, and they know your name. Good luck proving to law enforcement that you don't own that project anymore. Your only option right now, to change your brand, and move everything offshore.

Thank you all for responding.

Frankly, I'm not too worried about them finding my name. I mean, I doubt they'll pursue a lawsuit or any legal action, as I'm not really selling huge quantities of Soundcloud services. But also, I'm in a 3rd world country, I'm not even sure there are laws in place for them to come around and sue me for this. I'm not exactly doing anything illegal other than breaking their Terms of Service. What does a local court give a shit about their TOS. Plus, you can't sue me for nothing cuz I ain't got nothing haha..

Now, I am worried about losing my website. They gave me until November to remove their services from my site - and even though I'm itching not to, call their bluff, see if they actually contact my hosting provider - I'll probably remove SC services from my site starting November. It will hurt my income, but it won't kill it as I also sell many other services on the website.

But I do wonder, what's the stop me from adding the SC services to my site again after their deadline expires? I mean, are they really gonna "check" my website every few days/weeks to make sure I am not selling SC services anymore? What do yall think? Remove SC services starting November, add them back ending November, play crazy...

That said, I've been planning to make a Good website where I sell social media services for a while now, and after this I am seriously thinking of getting some offshore DMCA-ignore hosting to host my new site on. I'm fairly confident the domain registrar doesn't matter, they can't come after me for that, but I'd like a hosting account that's rock solid that would ignore something like what I opened this thread about. I looked into it and I found some hosting providers that look decent and could work. I'd pay like $30 for 1 year reseller package, hosting in Russia or something, and make my new website.

From my reading most people looking for offshore DMCA-ignore hosting are looking for porn or movie streaming sites. I am neither. But what was said is that even though a hosting provider can ignore DMCA requests, they still have to comply with the laws in their country if it escalates and the police/law gets involved. So then, which country am I best to look for if selling social media service? Russia? Netherlands? Moldavia? Romania? Any advice?

In my mind I would think that I should stay away from USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand and European Union countries for my hosting needs. Then again... what do I know

Hope to get some replies.

Any update op?

I would definitely remove all SC images from your website and replace with general music logos. To avoid the "selling plays" one trick that I know people have gotten away with is using "playlist pitching" verbage on the website. Mask it as a playlist pitching service and just put all tracks you work with under the playlist and boost the whole playlist. That way SC can't threaten the affiliation problem and direct pay for plays on the platform. Good luck with this, that's surprising they sought you out.